Savio P. Clemente “How I Beat Cancer”

This is the Doctor Haley Show podcast today’s guest Savio Clemente he is an author a speaker even a TEDx Speaker There’ll be a link below the video where you can see his TEDX Talk. He’s a board certified health coach and a cancer survivor. His battle with cancer ignited a passion to help others overcome adversity and thrive. Savio thank you so much for joining us How are you today?

Michael thank you so much for inviting me I’m doing well I had a late night yesterday but I’m doing okay.

Okay. I had a late night too I was watching a basketball game It was worth it though My team won finally So let’s see It was a fun thing

That’s wonderful I had Omakasi, ten course chefs counter, and it was a it was a pretty late night.

That’s good…Well tell me a little bit about yourself Where did you grow up?

Sure So I grew up in New York in a county called Westchester It’s about forty miles north of New York City And if you ever watch the show “The Facts Of Life” I’m dating myself here but it took place in a little town called Peekskill and that’s actually the town that I grew up in, small quaint very safe and comforting town and then I went to school in New York City In Manhattan and then I lived in Manhattan for many years And now I’m in a different part of Westchester County.

Okay. so you did date yourself You’re younger than me Okay. We got that figured out

I love that.

Now you had some challenges in life that I wanna talk about because there was something you said related to that that got my attention I thought man Savio can really relate to my audience. What do you think led up to you getting cancer Did you have anything to do with it And and what’d you do about it?

Yeah it’s a really beautiful question but it’s very loaded obviously. I would say from a physical standpoint I was doing everything right So I was seeing a naturopath once a year He analyzed my blood gave me the right vitamins to take I actually saw him for about ten years the right diet to have. And I was exercising six days a week high intensity strength training spinning boxing everything on that end was great I was even a meditator a long time meditator, but I will say I was in a business relationship with three other individuals and it was so stressful and emotionally draining because I put a lot of my heart and soul into the initiative, and I put a lot of my own finances into the initiative And it just wasn’t working and they were going through their own situation.

And I just honestly Michael didn’t have the courage or the wherewithal to end that relationship I let it go. So I’m not saying that was the main reason why I had cancer but it definitely didn’t help. it all culminated into a very fast moving experience which I can delve a little more into if you want but I would say that was a precipitous of it There was mental and emotional baggage that was carrying that I wasn’t able to process properly.

We like to talk about whether it’s cancer or the common cold, the things that you can do about it and the things that will hinder as we talk about things like nutrition exercise rest, positive mental, well-being that being one of the main components And it’s funny because when you think about nutrition I don’t think about what you eat That’s diet, of course But nutrition is kind of the blood chemistry the end result of what you eat. The end result of how you exercise, the end result of thoughts when you think certain ways, it makes chemistry in your body. And negative thoughts create negative chemistry. That’s negative nutrition So it’s not, at all Farfetched to say that that was a contributory cause to maybe a less than optimal immune system

And let’s face it All that exercise is stress too It’s a different kind of stress and it’s good and it might help relieve some of the mental stress but it’s stressful on the body physically as well. So, not that you were necessarily doing anything wrong but I relate. And yeah those thoughts just…can’t inhabit your brain. How’d you finally end that?

Yeah so it was fast forward It was so…So all I remember is I took a trip with a friend, to London Paris in Amsterdam, and while we were staying at the different locations I remember having drenching night sweats. And I just chalked it up to the environment something I ate, time change I don’t know I just I just kind of ignored it I came back to the States, and I started having them like really really drenching night sweats And then all of a sudden my stomach started getting distended bigger and bigger And I’m like oh something is really wrong

So I went back to the nature path then he analyzed my blood He’s like Savio… There could be like three or four things here. I really think you need to go and seek mainstream medicine. And I suggest you get a sonogram I’m like oh sonogram he’s like yeah I’m like okay I ended up getting a sonogram. They wouldn’t let me leave the office after I got the sonogram for like an hour and a half They told me to get a family member to come pick me up and I’m like wait. I drove myself here They’re like yeah you need to go to the hospital I’m like what And so I went to the hospital And within an hour they admitted me to the fifth floor.

And then that night I heard the nurses saying that I’d be transferred to the seventh floor which they called the cancer floor So that’s how I found out that I had cancer I didn’t know what kind of cancer. Eventually I found out it was DLBCL diffused large B cell lymphoma So it was a blood cancer and it was stage three It was only until they put an nephrostomy tube in me to let the liters of fluid from my abdomen that the doctor whispered in my ear that it was stage three and it was non Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

My oh my So when you heard that what was the feeling like

It wasn’t a great feeling obviously it was I think my personality is just one where I’ve had several challenges in my life and I view life through a different lens I see life as a series of, tests and challenges that we have to face and confront as harmful as painful as that can be sometimes. And I just said listen, because the doctors they ended up having to do a bone marrow aspiration on me And they said just to let you know people have kicked screamed spat used expletives at us so we’re okay.

And all all I remember is I was sweating profusely, and they did it and they both of them came to me They’re like Wait We’ve done this hundreds of times unfortunately. You didn’t even do anything I’m like I I looked at them I said doctors what do you expect me to do You’re here to help me Right You’re here to help me heal. and me complaining or me resisting the process is not gonna make your job easier certainly not gonna make my healing and easier So just do what you need to do. and they’re like wow That’s they’re like we’ve told a lot of people that they’ve had cancer and you’re the only one who took way or like recently took it this way And I’m like life throws you curveballs and shit happens.

And the only way to get through something, it’s to literally get through it Don’t ignore it Don’t try to over analyze it. But just try to deal with the situation one moment at a time And that’s that’s what I chose to do.

There’s a beautiful mental component for them too in making that connection and saying wow, we have to help this guy We have to help this one what a joy he is So I like that.

Thank you.

You’ve interviewed a couple hundred plus people that have survived cancer First of all how do we define that How do we know when you have survived cancer?

That’s a really good point So for me it’s when you’re out of treatment and you’ve given that remission status for me it my story goes after doing I decide to do an integrative path. So I did six rounds of R-CHOP chemo every three weeks. and in between that I did whole bunch of integrated modalities I set a Google alert I researched up and down on anything I could get my hands on when it came to my type of blood cancer or cancer or lymphoma. And I didn’t tell my oncologist that I was doing it because I felt that it was my body and I believe completely in body autonomy, especially when it doesn’t affect other people’s livelihood. and so for me I was able to beat the diagnosis in four and a half months. And this past December of twenty twenty three it’s been nine years of remission. So for me it’s anyone who’s out of treatment and trying to get some semblance of their life back.

And and you and you were correct At this point I’ve interviewed two hundred cancer survivors in different walks of life different types of cancers different stages of cancers. And the way that started was just an interview series that I pitched to my editor I’m a journalist, and he He thought of a brilliant title I survived cancer and here is how I did it And then on the back end he said to me after interviewing at that point hundred and seventy five cancer survivors he’s like this needs to be a book. So I ended up launching a book with thirty five of their stories told my own.

And the good news is that the stories of hope survived and and that was evident in it becoming a best seller in several categories So I was just happy that I was able to, garner the interest in people thinking that they can overcome something like this because the through line that I kept hearing interview after interview after interview was cancer doesn’t have to be a death sentence. There is a way through it and there’s a way around it and there’s a way over it. But it’s hard.

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I know there’s gonna be some great content in that because as people are reading the stories they wanna know especially if they’re fighting cancer, how did others do it And I’m unfortunately get gonna try to get that content on this show, but People will still want the book Where should they go to get it

Sure They could go to Amazon search I survived cancer here is how I did it You could also look at my website saviopclemente.com I have links to every asset that I’m creating in the world, to try to really bolster the intent for myself is to really allow people for me to be an example of someone who’s survived something like this and come out the other side. And have others find that inspiration or that courage within.

Okay. Well, based on all the interviews you’ve done and your own experience and you already used one of the words that we’re gonna need a definition of because I wanna know how many people did a all natural how many did integrative how many did only medical, and survived according to that got I got to remission.

Yeah I would say from the hundred and seventy five interviews at that time that I did Now it’s two hundred. I would say about sixty five percent did regular medical, treatment.

Only?

Yes Completely only chemo Most unfortunately where breast cancer survivors I put a call out and my editor put a call out for people to talk about other types of cancers but breast cancer kept coming over and over again So majority are female stories. and then I would say about twenty percent did an integrated path like I did. And maybe five to six percent just did only natural, treatment So they all survived

I mean there was a couple of really key stories in there that really gravitated to like I gravitated towards one of the guys had pancreatic cancer He was told he had a two to four percent chance of living. He was a finance guy and he’s like wait Why can’t I be part of the two to four percent Why do I have to be part of the ninety six percent? And then I had another one an actor named Rob Paulson and he was a voice actor for Hollywood He’s done picking in the brain animaniacs, and he had throat cancer. So it was a double whammy for him because it was not only cancer but it was his livelihood what he loved doing. Fortunately he survived it and he’s still working in Hollywood at the moment.

And for those listening the definition the integrative, you’re combining the medicine with the natural This is where I want people to kind of learn how they know the right path to take. And this is where I heard you talking which kind of resonated with me I’m always trying to help people know what the right path is whether it’s how much of the supplement should I take how long should I exercise And sometimes doctors use, I’ll call them gymnastics to bring the subconscious into the conscious. Whether it’s a muscle testing or whatever the case is I don’t think that and this is my take I’m gonna upset people that love their muscle testing.

I don’t think you’re stronger or weaker I think your brain is intentionally interfering with the signal to communicate to you the truth And and we have all of these little I’m I pull my fingers apart or I push down on the arm and and Well you’re not pushing as hard You might not realize it. Your brain’s not letting you push down on my arm because you believe and it’s probably right.

So I I want people to understand how to know the path they should take As you went through the statistics And people heard oh integrative is this approach and there’s that that, How do you feel about those things Is even if one with the most success felt the least comfortable to you At least you now know that that makes you uncomfortable there’s probably a reason for that. And maybe the one that was least successful You might be saying, but that just seems right for me Well then it might be. how do you bring that all knowledge the thing that has turned, peanut butter and jelly into who I am today. How do we tap into that to get the right answers

So I can start off by telling you a story of what happened to me So I was in the hospital I was told I just had cancer. I had a call from a friend someone who I probably consider a very extremely wise person I’m no longer, in contact with her but we’ve known each other for over fifteen years. And she said to me Savio, wait You’re you need to get chemo right away because the the medical director said that to me actually She’s like if you don’t get chemo before you leave the but I was in the hospital for fifteen days She’s like I don’t know what’s gonna happen to you I’m like wow It it’s that serious I’m like yeah It’s that serious I’m like okay So I I asked her and she’s like you sure you wanna get chemo It ravages the body the good and the bad It’s a very risky move.

And I thought about it and I think sometimes you need to just rely on silence because silence is really, a moment in space and time where you’re able to just sit. I think we’re so distracted. And I kid you not a movie from a movie from the nineties came to me it’s the movie called Siddhartha. but it it was called Little Buddha but it was about Siddhartha And Keanu Reeves starred in the movie I tell the story all the time because it’s very important to me The story because it really allowed me to decide. and in the movie Keanu Reeves played siddhartha. He gave up all his worldly desires He’s there meditating the two other Aesthetics He’s living on literally nothing maybe like a kernel of rice, a day.

And he overhears two individuals on a fishing boat And one of them has an instrument. And the older individual says to the young person he’s like if you hold the string too tight it will snap. And if you leave it to Slack it won’t play. The path is the middle way. And it was like I and I it was like a flash of it said I’m like oh, I can do both I don’t have I can say yes to the doctor and do what I need to do And yes I can do those other things because I believe in my own body autonomy. And I’m like that’s what I’m gonna do And so I chose to do that

So I think the key there is to find some way to get into self So we can talk a little bit about my TEDx Talk which is called seven minutes to wellness how to love your inner stranger. That’s where that impetus of my TEDX talking from It was from twenty fourteen when I was in the hospital bed bedridden for a week because of the nephrostomy tube, And thinking to myself this stranger this physical body of mine that’s dying and there’s just other parts of me this emotional and mental and vibrancy and relational aspects of myself that I feel that’s so still alive. How do I pull myself out of that

And so for me the answer was that I mean you could do it through journaling. You could do it through meditation. you can do it through what I call the ALOHA reboot we could go into later in my TEDx Talk where you can actually say hello to your inner self but I think the key there is to just really stop the noise because I think your loved ones mean well and your family members mean well but no one really knows unless you’ve been through cancer No one really understands you And so I think the first key is to understand yourself.

Yeah Yeah I like that. Know your inner self. Say hello. What’s the rest of the ALOHA?

Sure So A stands for acknowledgement. So acknowledge the present moment Just acknowledge where you are Don’t pretend it doesn’t happening It’s happening right now to you. Listen to that inner voice somehow. I call it the three brains the head heart and gut. They speak to you There’s consciousness there There’s anecdotal evidence that proves that there’s some wisdom there It’s your job Figure out what that wisdom is No one can tell you what that is

O stands for opening and this is huge in all the interviews I did which is open yourself up to self compassion and self forgiveness So the way I thought of the ALOHA reboot was through something called Huna healing which is Hawaiian healing modality. And there’s an offshoot of that called Ho’oponopono And it really is just these affirmations that you say about self forgiveness self self reflection loving yourself, H stands for harnessing So harness that wisdom that you garnered and gained and A is the most important It’s really acting with intention and with purpose every day. And so that’s why I call the ALOHA reboot.

Very nice. For myself if I’m trying to hear something and I’m being in silence and I’m not hearing anything. I will press the issue a little bit by testing. In other words, let’s say it was high vitamin C therapy. Okay. How much should I have a day What’s gonna be the right amount for me? I’m not really sure Okay what about five milligrams a day Well that doesn’t seem like enough How about a hundred thousand a day? That seems like too much. Okay. and as I test I’ll eventually come to that middle point where it’s like yeah that’s kind of the that that that feels right for me And then I might look it up and say okay Is that safe Is that normal Is it within the range that’s allowed?

People ask me I I have an aloe vera company and everyone wants to know how much should I drink a gallon a day that seems excessive. Just have a teaspoon That doesn’t seem like enough What were you hoping I would say? Well I was kinda hoping you would say like eight ounces a day Well there you go You know you just figured it out on your own there. because the answers are in us, this wisdom that two cells came together, from our parents, and this cell started dividing and turned into who we are. And it’s been taking the things we put in our face Turning it into more of who we are It’s been healing us We we breathe without thinking about it We blink our eyes and we sleep in our keeps on going. That knowledge is there. Our book smarts aren’t so smart. But if we can learn to pay attention to the source of all knowledge, that wisdom that’s in each one of us, that’s when real success and health and happiness happen.

Yeah And I love the fact that you underscored that because That’s the tenant of coaching People think coaching is therapy It’s not coaching is where you are and where you wanna go And Coaching is not an advisory role coaching is not mentorship, coaching is not consultancy, coaching is the coach actually taking you on a journey creating a container for you to figure out the answers because I will never be next expert on you You will always be an expert on yourself but I can allow you to shed some layers or see some other perspectives that will allow that answer to land for you in such a deep way, that’s where profound change happens That’s where people use the phrase transformation happens.

Because I can tell you something But if it doesn’t mean anything to you you’re not gonna act on it You’re not gonna do anything about it And that’s why I love doing that with my clients because they’re like Oh my god That little germination of information that I that they found allows them to carry that forward in their own lives and unravel things both professionally and personally It’s just a beautiful experience to witness

It’s actually when people say to me they’re like you do journalism I’m like I love the coaching aspect when I spoke to Venus William she’s one of the people I interviewed her at the wellness company she’s great And she did talk about the fact that everyone sees her as this epitome of sports but she has her own digestive issues and that was hindering her process. When I’m doing those interviews it’s wonderful to get thought leadership and get expertise and insights. But it’s a whole different ballgame when you’re there in front of someone and you’re like, actually allowing them to see vast resources that they have ignored or didn’t wanna see or feel like they’re not worthy of.

Yeah As you were saying that it’s funny because Sometimes when I’m not sure the answer I’ll ask people for advice. And I can often figure out the right way to go as especially when they give me the wrong advice, because I didn’t know it was the wrong advice until I heard it but now that I heard it And as a coach, and and I experienced the same thing in extracting the right answer out of people. Sometimes it’s bouncing things off them and you watch their reaction, and then. Okay This isn’t right for you This is and now we both know.

So, and especially since sometimes they’ll say something, but their body says another And that’s when an expert coach really can observe they can see wait You shrugged your shoulders or you winced a little bit You sure you really wanna do that or you don’t I mean it’s up to you. that’s where the magic happens I find.

I love it. Let’s contrast that. What are some of the limiting narratives that people have that interfere with progress with success.

I think some people don’t give themselves enough credit And I know that sounds a little silly but they just don’t because they feel like how can I manage all these things It’s not about managing all these things Am I managing one thing? At a time So just break it apart, reverse engineer whatever you can or can’t do

I was on a panel a week and a half ago Not my audience but they invited me on to speak It was a panel of stage four, prostate cancer patients. Not survivors. And, they’ve tried all avenues. At this point they’ve gotten the fact that they’re mostly likely not gonna make it. And I said to myself how do I how am I gonna serve them in this moment really really well Because they’re not my audience Right It’s not about what I do is Okay You survived this horrible thing Now how do you wanna tell your story How do you wanna amplify your impact How do you wanna create a new version of yourself I can’t I can’t say that to them.

So there’s one guy who talked about this is happening to him this is happening to his dad and I said to him okay. So the coach and me came out besides the interviewer. And I said okay If I waved a magic wand and took away your cancer, it’s completely gone today At this moment it’s completely gone What would you do? And he’s like oh, okay I would do this I’m like okay So write write that down Is there any way you could move that needle a little further and say that you could tackle these He’s like yeah I could probably do one or two things I’m like so then what’s stopping you

Because at the end of the day it’s not over until it’s over Healing happens in all ways and I say this all the time and I’ll still say it It doesn’t always happen in the medical office Doesn’t always happen in the chemo bed Doesn’t always happen It happens in moments where we don’t know because healing is a mystery. And it’s our job to figure out highs and lows of where that answer lies for each of us because each of us each of our story is different.

And the thing with that panel that they really appreciated was the fact that they can still leave a little mark in a legacy. They still have time to do that because this guy was so living in the survival that he wasn’t living in the living or the thriving. And that really allowed him to see outside of himself. So Yeah.

Wow And we’ve all heard stories of people that were given ten days two weeks everything medicine failed them. They tried now Everything failed them And then all of a sudden, they figure out what they need to get well or what they need to do or whatever the case is. So regardless of the situation. I would say never give up Never lose hope

It’s one of my favorite movies in the world is Shawshank Redemption. Get busy living or get busy dying You only have two choices that’s the ethos that I live in And so I’m just trying to be an example of a cancer survivor who came through something and just showing that I am living that truth. There’s never a guarantee I’m nine years of remission I get a scan every year I was told I don’t have to but I just do it for my own or own sanity. and I feel great And I’m keeping on keeping on as they say So that’s what I’m doing

I like the statement from the movie Apollo Thirteen. Failure is not an option.

Yes Yes. A hundred percent Well it’s re it it’s really funny that you mentioned that because so, as a journalist I was sent to for to cover the Oscars the red carpet. And so I I was I was in LA like a week and a half ago And I’m there and I’m like, viewing, like life in that lens right And behind the scenes it’s a whole different lens because you have all these celebrities who are acting and posing because they’re under the watchful eye of their managers and their PR reps and their peers.

And it’s so interesting to me because I’m like, this is a great experience to have but I’m like wow Because I deal with such a divergent amount of people in my life from wellness to lifestyle. It was just a fascinating thing to see life in those moments because you realize it doesn’t always have to be a drudgery Life doesn’t always have to be so hard. We can find ways create lightness and and and something that’s more fulfilling.

Yeah. When someone’s lacking confidence how do you help them get that confidence back And whether it’s fighting cancer or playing the guitar better.

Yeah actually this was a client This was coaching client topic, just recently. I actually had them just do an assessment on themselves. In the world how do you see yourself? Write down all the ways in me do you see it And then I asked them probably in the next coaching conversation because I want that to filter in. How do you think other people see you? And then write that down And I’m like okay Is there any correlation between the two? Sometimes there is And they’re like oh wow So the way I present myself is the way other people see me and sometimes there’s a disconnect obviously Right

And so really the key is how can we bolster that So if it’s your physical appearance right? You have to do things in the physical material world to look good. You just do I could have come on to this interview had not shaved and like looked like like after I came home last night like twelve forty five in the morning Could’ve looked like crap. but the fact of the matter is we have to do the certain things So that’s number one I would say probably the second thing is really to figure out what their strengths are Because confidence come from strength So that’s a VIA strength assessment There’s various assessments that you can do So that’s number two

And number three I think the really most important thing is emotionally I read back those words that they say that they see themselves as or other people’s and see how it hits them or how it affects them in their physical body So we do a body scan, and we sort of filter out how is it that they want people to see Because there’s two sides of us Right There’s this personal side of us that fun engaging We do all these crazy things on Instagram and there’s a professional side of us that are works in the office or works remotely that we put on LinkedIn that that we only want people to see.

And so I really will just really ask them when you when it comes to confidence, it’s confidence something you want to have consistently. It’s something you wanna have in a professional setting It’s something you wanna have in your and most of the time it’s always in a professional setting, but the key is I think is to marry the two because you wanna be a whole person not just a person for others.

Yeah Yeah I agree How do you handle setbacks I have an answer for this and I we’ll compare them I think I’m gonna learn from you though

It depends upon if it’s a medical setback that’s a really big blow because a large part of this process and when I talk to clients and was on that panel, when a doctor gives you that type of news, you feel powerless I mean I call it not Doctor Oz the Celebrity Doctor, but the Oz effect, you’re like wait. They are this this great and powerful Oz that’s giving me this information You feel powerless But doctors only can give you that physical aspect of self.

There’s this other side of self There’s this emotional self There’s this mental self There’s your dreams that you’re having There’s relational issues There’s your spirituality there’s your, feelings of your connection to something higher than yourself the god or or universe. And so I often say to them that you really need to figure out for yourself what is the motivating factors in all that Is one thing taking more precedent than the other? Are they all equally alive within you And figure out for yourself how can you make some of those aspects of self Better or more in tune with what you want. that’s my quick answer. I would love to hear yours though.

Well mine comes from, Charles Stanley. God rest his soul passed away last year, but I watched a sermon and it was all about well not only receiving compliments, but also rejections and and insults and people telling you this about you and that things you don’t want to hear And I’ve taken that and I’ve applied it to other areas of my life when things fail I always ask, what can I learn from this And then the next question is What can I do about it What can I do better What can I do about what I’ve learned from it? How can I prevent this or make sure it doesn’t happen Again, can I do that

And for me it’s a very, not so emotional but logical okay. What is there to learn. something went wrong in business What can I learn I have a angry customer. What can I learn How can I make sure that doesn’t happen again? when it comes to health Yeah What can I learn about it What where did I go wrong? am I not doing the nutrition right? Exercise Is it the rest? Is it the mental well-being Which one of those stands out exercise Okay Dig deep into the exercise, am I doing flexibility training strength training endurance training and then I start breaking it down looking Which one do I feel like I’m the weakest in that I need to make the correction in or nutritionally Where do I need to make the correction What what’s wrong with my sleep Why aren’t I sleeping? What’s interfering with my sleep Is it my stinking thinking Is it the things I ate So I always wanna say what can I learn What can I do better?

Yeah And and and to add to that which is beautiful, it’s to me also this idea that, it’s like a quote I heard about this fact that people often use the phrase karma like I deserved it or it’s karma No Karma happens and whatever your belief system is about that is whatever it is it’s about how do you respond to it? Because you can undo things that you’ve created. It is possible to do that And so I think that’s where self responsibility comes into play But I I agree with you You have to be really truthful with yourself and figure out in different aspects of life where where can you fix that?

Yeah Karma, laws of nature. We we have to admit that there’s something that exists in there. We have some say in the things that happened to us.

Yeah

Whether good or bad.

A hundred percent but we also have the power to rewrite which is wonderful about the life experience because

Ah yes

That’s because I I was in a room that day in twenty fourteen July. With four other roommates constantly rotating Two of them had brain cancer and one of them wanted to leave the hospital He was yelling and screaming at the doctors and the nurses. And I said to him I was like I know it’s none of my business I barely know you but I’m like what are you rushing home to Because they’re here to try to help you Right and he’s like a going home for my dog.

And I was talking to that friend of mine who who mentioned the chemo aspect. And she goes Savio you don’t get it I’m like what do you mean She goes he’s scared of dying. He’s not you He’s not like thinking about his next steps He’s thinking that he’s not gonna make it And I’m like oh my god. That was like one of my greatest lessons I’m like that’s when I learned true humility and through empathy because I’m like oh that’s what he was wrestling with He’s not there He doesn’t have that next step that vision that I’m having to see where my life can take me He’s thinking my life is over. Right and that’s why he wanted to just go home And they ended up releasing him because that’s what he wanted

And for those that don’t have hope, I think of one of our customers who tells the story of his father who was given ten days to live with two tumors in his brain. After chemotherapy and all medicine and radiation had failed And he changed some things in his life and got well in a short period of time. Six months later, new scans new brain scans, and little remnants of the tumors which were probably a scar tissue. So to speak

Wow. Well look at the end of the day we’re talking about things like I mentioned medical things very physical But it’s always an inside job this Your people will tell you people who’ve had even radical remissions will say that they went in to go without You have to go in first That’s the way it works The doctors do their part You can rely on whatever modality you want but the rest of it is your responsibility.

Do you have a newsletter that people can sign up for

I do So if they go to my website again SavioPclemente.com a pop-up will come up or you’ll see a newsletter link and I write once a week on topics that are meaningful to me And I’m very honest like I wrote my post when I cover the Oscars was about belonging in the sea of Hollywood’s elite. And I wrote about my own feelings about that about where does belonging come from Do I belong in this space Even though I was invited, it was a schism for me. but yeah so they can they can sign up for that I send it out every Wednesday.

Okay What’s your other website? There’s the Savio p Colamente and the human resolve What’s that

Yeah So my human resolve was the initial website I had It it’s it’s my coaching website It’s talks about coaching I’m currently building an online community as well because sometimes some people just don’t have the investment for one-on-one coaching which I love doing and I love helping people see that transformation but I wanna help more people do that So but both websites mirror one another in terms of where you can find information. And then it’s socially they can find me at the human resolve. it’s where I’m at in every single platform including TikTok. Which might get banned I will see what happens

See what happens. Right Not just for you not because of anything you said but for the whole country

Yes For the whole for the whole country Actually I was in India. in December I do a lot of work with natural geographic and so I was flown to India for fifteen days eight cities. And I couldn’t get on TikTok It’s completely banned in India So I’m like Interesting. Thirty days. I was without any, TikTok but it was interesting.

Now is there one particular social media that you actually monitor Because you can’t monitor all of them

Yeah So I I mostly post on, Instagram So it’s at the human resolve. TikTok I’ll just post like repurpose some of the podcast interviews that I’ve done or some other video content But that’s the main one that gets the most engagement, and it’s really a fun platform I find.

Okay Excellent So I’ll have links for everyone below this podcast in the well on the of the blog page underneath the YouTube video wherever you get it even in the Apple iTunes description, but those aren’t clickable. All the other locations are. Sabio I wanna thank you so much Is there any last words of wisdom that you’d like to share?

Yeah I just really like today’s conversation and you’re such rich questioning because oftentimes when you have a conversation about this it gets very heady or people want like the science only. But we can spout out ten research studies and ten different technical medical jargons, but it doesn’t impact you unless it resonates with you Simple language Like they told me when I did my TEDx talk Savio your writer but we need you to say something in one word not five words I know you want to beautifully express it in adjectives You don’t have to do that

And so for me it’s just if I was to give any type of science or any type of learnings here besides just the truth of life. It would just be about this idea of self regulation. It’s doing that self monitoring or that vision or goal setting because that’s really what coaching is setting a vision not a goal but a vision of how do you wanna be how do you wanna feel And also going back to my trainees in positive psychology which is efficacy and managing the situation despite the challenges. No matter what you’re going through no matter what it is medical emotional mental or any other of the above.

At the end of the day, I think the key here is to just figure out for yourself. Where can your life go? And how do you find that you can shore up that whether that support system whether that’s help or coach or therapist, or what I would like to sort of lead people with doing is really relying more on self and the the knowledge and wisdom within So that’s the last thing I wanna leave them with.

Perfect I have nothing to add That’s awesome Okay Well thank you so much.