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RESOURCES
- Buy the book “God Talks” by Ed Rush on Amazon
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- Visit Jude Sullivan at GodTalks.com
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro Snip
01:06 Introduce Jude Sullivan “The Fitness Pastor”
01:47 What is God Talks and who is Ed Rush?
02:20 Why can’t we hear God when He talks to us?
03:20 Mental Gymnastics to get to the right answer
04:50 How do you know when it is God verses when it is you?
05:00 We are Spiritual beings having a physical experience
07:19 The Bible says “Be still and know that I am God”
08:00 Jude’s experience recognizing the voice of God
08:53 God’s desire for you
10:18 God is Love
12:35 Do all Christians have to have a defining moment of when they became a Christian?
13:50 How emotions can confuse people regarding God’s desire for a relationship with you.
16:50 What Jude things is the single most important thing we can ask God. (What is our purpose for our life?)
18:12 How Jude got the name “The Fitness Pastor”, at a time when he was struggling a little bit about bringing his faith into his practice as a clinical exercise physiologist.
19:22 Its not about what you do to be the foundation of who you are. It is who you are and how is that expressed in what it is that you do.
22:10 How do you handle adversity in business like complaints and negative reviews?
27:20 What are some time management strategies?
31:30 How the book Atomic Habits helped Jude address problem solving
35:40 God isn’t about “Coincidence”…
38:00 How to get in touch with Jude Sullivan
38:50 What are the services offered through God Talks?
TRANSCRIPT
if you think about this we are actually spiritual beings. We have a soul which is our our mind our will and emotions And we live in a physical body. And so our existence on earth we placed so much emphasis on the physical elements. It’s almost like the tail wagging the dog. And so the spirit just kinda gets put off to the side until we have conversations maybe like this and then we might wanna consider you know what’s the nature of my spiritual being. When really it’s the spirit that should be the head and the body is just the tail.
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I’m Dr. Michael Haley and this is the Dr. Haley show podcast. Today’s guest…Jude Sullivan, known as The fitness pastor, his current superpower is helping people get unstuck to realize the meaning and purpose of their lives. His mission is to connect people with God and then get out of the way. I like that. Jude thank you for joining me on this show today. Thank you Dr. Haley I appreciate it. God Talks…That is the company you’re currently associated with Right? Well Ed Rush who is the author of the book God Talks. I’m one of his certified coaches. And so he’s been a business leader for a number of years. And…it kind of started innocently as a part of his business seminars he would have this kind of offline…group where he would invite people to come and, see about how they can listen to God and how that could amplify their businesses…and it kind of evolved from that and then he actually wrote a book It was published It came out last year. And so…that’s kind of where we’re at right now God is always trying to communicate to us. it’s up to us to figure out a way to listen to it but our life is so full of distractions, that we believe that, we can’t. And that’s sad. And so it’s simply his…initiative…to help people realize that you can. And so he provides a methodology for that. You know it’s kinda why I wanted you on this show I kinda knew this was your specialty your area of expertise that you’re really practicing right now For me I have a nutrition company. And I’m gonna…explain how this has worked into my life when it comes to communicating with my customers, and then hopefully we’ll make sense of it in…learning from you on how God speaks to us…But a lot of people will ask me something so simple like I make aloe vera raw aloe vera and people are drinking it to strengthen their immune systems against cancers and heal their bowels and stuff like that and they’ll ask me how much should I drink…And sometimes I’ll lead them through a little mental gymnastics…and say well you should you know have a gallon a day. Well that seems like a lot I was just kidding You should have a teaspoon. That doesn’t feel right Well what were you hoping I would say? is there something that you were hoping I would say Like a full glass a sip or what were you hoping for? What was the amount I was gonna say that was gonna make you feel just right Because that might be your answer. You know what if I deviated a little high from that Well starts getting uncomfortable What if I went a little low? It gets uncomfortable. See, I believe…The answers are there…We just don’t know how to listen to them I can’t give you the answer. I can say something to you and there’s gonna be times when it just doesn’t feel right and maybe you should get a second opinion…and find the right way. I don’t know if that makes sense But for me there have been times in my life where it seems like…God speaks to me and it’s very subtle. Question is am I paying attention Then there’s other times when it’s like and this is the few and far between…It’s…more clear than surround sound…Even though there’s no sound waves, but you just know…What’s your experience with that How do you know when it’s God? How do you know when it’s you…I’m a Christian So, it comes from that perspective so…What’s interesting is…if you think about this we are actually spiritual beings. We have a soul which is our our mind our will and emotions And we live in a physical body. And so our existence on earth we placed so much emphasis on the physical elements. It’s almost like the tail wagging the dog. And so the spirit just kinda gets put off to the side until we have conversations maybe like this and then we might wanna consider you know what’s the nature of my spiritual being. When really it’s the spirit that should be the head and the body is just the tail. And so to answer your question, we’re so in our head sometimes, the Holy Spirit when you ask the Spirit to live inside of you, it resonates with your own voice And so it’s not about of hearing maybe with your ears although that could be possible. It’s more of a quickening…It’s the best way I the best word I can use to to maybe describe it This idea of like, you know some people might call it an aha moment. but what I think what happens is that people will dismiss the obvious saying oh that can’t be God…But God’s like wants to give you something simple…for you to take that step in faith. Because he’s not gonna give you the whole plan And I’m sure as you’re you know in your own business, you don’t have the whole plan You might have a vision for where you wanna go but how those individual, descriptive steps, actually unfold sometimes you don’t know until it’s actually placed in front of you and then you have to take that step not knowing what the next step is gonna be. So what tends to happen is that we actually we hear God more than we realize but we have this editor inside of us. That says oh no. It couldn’t be that. And so we just have to actually…step out in faith and then obey and just see what the next step is And what I would say for people who are actually start to apply this is that internal feelings of tension and dissonance they’ll start to subside…and there’s a calm that comes from it we have so much Like I said, distraction that’s about us, that we we become anxious because we’re not sure which is the way to go. There’s so many paths. You know am I taking the right path? And it’s really not about that It’s a willingness to actually settle down…the Bible says be still and know that I am God. And so this application of becoming still especially in our society is probably the biggest hurdle that we have to… Okay. So this might sound like a foreign language to some people So…Let’s…back up a little bit because you probably didn’t always understand these things There was probably something that happened in your life maybe along the way you came to…open yourself up and allow God into your life maybe. And these things probably became more apparent to you and you started realizing okay there is a God Can you tell us about that and how that happened for you? Sure. So I grew up in a Catholic family and…I’m very grateful for my family in…in…the faith that they brought into my life. I would say at a very young age I was actually hearing from God but I didn’t comprehend…what that was. And so I didn’t know what to do with that And I didn’t really speak about it to anybody. but it wasn’t again hearing with my carnal ears It was a sense of knowing you know when you’re five years old, it’s like that’s a pretty heady thing. And you yourself like I said you don’t really know what’s happening with that. And so I grow and I’m mature and I’m active in my church and…you do church things but it’s not about church anymore. it has to become more personal It has to become a decision that you make. God doesn’t want a relationship that’s about religiosity…or about tradition…he wants a personal relationship with you. That’s the most important thing. Whatever is important in your life is important to him probably more so than it is to you. But what even trumps that is that he wants to be in relationship with you. And so…it took me a long time to to get to that point You know I was so caught up in the mechanics of religion…thinking that that was kind of the way to, find this sweet spot to live and I had it all upside down. And so as I became an adult and actually became a parent and I was married … I went through a divorce. I went through the death of children. You know you start getting going through these real life seasons that We all have them You know, mine is no more big than anybody else. We all have them. what happens when that situation hits you the storm that hits you, and then what do you do with that And so it it does come back down to We can continue to let ourselves to be distracted We become more distracted or we can settle in. But we don’t wanna do that because and sometimes it’s painful for people. and it was painful for me. but…That’s where God wants to again be in relationship with you to know that God is love He doesn’t give love He is love. And he wants to to love you. And he wants you to love him. And it’s it’s love him and then love everybody else You know that those are the most important things to him. And so it took me a long time to go through that process of just reading a scripture or hearing about that and talking about that to actually…embracing that and have it be less about doing and more about being. And so I’m still on that path now, where many behaviors or habits whether they’re thoughts or things that I do, that keep me from being because I think I should be doing. I have to flip that around And so that’s that’s a part of sanctification that lasts the rest of your life and that that’s what I’ll be going through now.
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So yeah there’s a a process that…takes the rest of our lives…and we may never come to that moment of completion…but was there a moment in time a significant turning point where you…said you know I surrender…and…That that’s a great question because I think some people they think well if I didn’t have that then it it’s then I’m I haven’t gotten there. And I don’t agree with that You know I don’t think there is a moment in time I think there can be moments in time…that you recognize…but I can’t give you a day with the actual hour that this happened I said oh…okay here it is. I can say you know when I was in the Catholic church when I became when I was confirmed, I feel like that that was that was a moment in time for me So I could identify that as a time I can also say when one of my children passed away that was also a moment in time for me. I could say when I was remarried that was another moment in time for me. So there’s there are these moments that I string together where It’s kinda like if you’ve ever seen that poem footprints in the sand…you know and there’s there’s two footprints and then all of a sudden there’s one and it’s like the the person’s asking you know rhetorically but you know God’s listening He’s like why weren’t with you with me He’s like well those aren’t your foot principles or mine That’s when I was carrying you in the midst of that Yeah And So, again I think what happens is…and it this can be a real slippery slope is we we defer so much to our emotions. And that we think it should be an emotional thing that connects me to what God is about that if we don’t have the emotional whatever it is that we think we should have that we become disappointed…by that and think well it’s he doesn’t wanna be in relationship. And you cannot…good or bad You cannot put that much stock in your emotional…response to validate the fact that God is real and God wants to be…I agree…When you talk about emotion too and think of the word love…Right And we talk about God’s unconditional love. And…our love for God…It doesn’t always mean that love is emotional Sometimes we feel distant and sometimes it’s more of a choice…Love has been defined as charity…which is more action…than feeling…So I think it’s easy as we…go through our journey to fall into the trap and think well I don’t feel…this right now. Well it’s not always that way…When it comes to…Well my listeners, some of them are going through the path trying to hear God They’re on the right path. Other are at a complete…change in their life. Maybe their marriage has just ended. Maybe they were terminated from their job Maybe their skills aren’t even relevant anymore as the world is changing I think of, a friend of mine who does, well did. Medical transcription. Well that’s been replaced by AI. His whole business…is pretty much…expired there’s no reason for it anymore…So people are all along on on a path They know they’re on the right path…But they aren’t quite…being directed by God And other people are completely at a place where they’re saying I don’t even know what God will is for my life…What advice would you have for those two extremes? Yeah The those are really good and really relevant questions…Don’t know if I have the best answer but here here’s what I’ll do I’ll give it a shot…And I wanna say what I wanna say before you I go into that is what I love what you said Dr. Haley about love is we attach so much emotion to it Is that…Again, this idea that it it there has to be a feeling associated with love for it to be love…that’s really not what it’s about And what you said about charity and just the the act of being selfless…is a very difficult thing, because we’re not supposed to love people who love us We’re supposed to love our enemies. And that doesn’t feel very loving So I just wanna thank you for that That that was really awesome. So to answer your question…I think the single most important thing that we could ask God is what is our purpose for life because things do change Things are like the the shifting sand And if we put our faith in things that are like shifting sand, it’s gonna be a really rough life. And the idea of what is success, you know if I put it as you know having a successful business or being a successful employee within a business that all of a sudden, you’re sacrificed…because of layoffs, you know it’s not even a an industry thing but it’s just a financial thing All of a sudden you’re looked at as just a number. That that can be very invalidating…to who you are as a person. And so I can relate to some of this because I feel like You know I was trained as a clinical exercise physiologist i worked in corporate health care, but the one thing I couldn’t really speak about what that was what I felt was the most important was the faith element. But in an integrative health there was this desire to bring other elements of spiritualism…into to the mix And so for me it felt very contradictory. And so…What happened for me and maybe this is the best way to explain it for somebody to address your question is somebody came up to me when I was running one of our research programs. She said and this is how I got the name the fitness pastor She goes dude you just remind me of being a fitness pastor…And it was kind of one of those times where it felt like it was who God wanted me to be was aligned with what it is that I was doing. And what that I can further translate that out into the future is it didn’t matter what I was doing because people could see that there was God in the…even though I couldn’t profess it, you know, verbally or out loud to somebody. So I’d say the most important thing is to…first seek, God You know I think many times we decide what it is that we wanna do and then we ask God okay give me the blessings. Because I really feel like my aptitude is here and this is what I should be doing. but we didn’t really ask God first. And so, that can be hard if you’re in the midlife You know I’m gonna be sixty tomorrow actually. And so I’m kind of reinventing myself right now even. You know to be an entrepreneur to go from an employee into an entrepreneur space, there’s take some reinvention I’m sure you’re very well aware of that too. So it’s not about…what you do to be the foundation of who you are it’s who you are and then how is that expressed and what it is that you do And God has always has provision…for it So if we’re really in tune with what it is that he’s telling us he will show you what it is that it’s gonna be the next step for you to take to go through what it is that he wants which represents the purpose that he has for you in your life I…I’m gonna ask you to resay that because I think it was a great point and it was something along the lines of it’s not what you’re doing that makes who you are It’s who you are doing what you do How did you say that Yeah So…what and this is kind of another one of those points you know goes back initial question where it felt like once that woman said to me you remind me of being a fitness pastor To me it in it felt like I was integrating who it is I was with what it is I was always doing. And what it told me is is that it didn’t matter what I was doing…I could do anything because…I didn’t even have to say to somebody what my faith was because they experienced that through…what was coming out of me So it doesn’t matter you know am I an entrepreneur am I employee am I just a retired guy whatever? It doesn’t matter. People should…they should experience that from me no matter what it is that I’m doing. God will help you take care of the doing He gives you the provision to what it to do what it is that you need to do but we need to sit back and listen and get rid of the distractions so we know what it is that he wants us to do so that we can fill the purpose that we have in our life. I think there’s a scripture verse something to the effect of we are to be the fragrance of Christ. And…we don’t have to be known by our you know bumper stickers and our t shirts that says you know I love Jesus. But they should see the love that we have in the things that we do. We are to be the fragrance of Christ some to salvation, And, unfortunately for others it might be for their own damnation as they reject…you know everything, about…Jesus everything about God. But our job is to be…representatives…of who he is to the best of our ability…and continue to improve along the way At the beginning you said something about…continuing to…along the path you know never quite achieving…in our life but being transformed continually. That’s right. Yep. We’re a work in progress. A work in progress. For sure…What are some business gems that you’ve learned along the way One challenge that…business owners will experience are possibly negative reviews or…complaints. People customers angry customers…people that are disgruntled don’t like the way something was handled either by you or by someone in your company…What advice would you have for the for those people? Yeah So the the one thing I would say again is you deepen in your faith too is that you become unoffended. And so when you get messages like that, you don’t respond to them in emotional reactivity but you you look for the grain of truth that might be in there that could actually serve you and help you in this process of of growing in whatever it is that you do. So I think many times if it’s…you know we could have a Michael Angelo…sculpture, but we see the one imperfection everybody else sees the beauty but you see the perfection Often we are our own worst critics. And sometimes we can let that hold us back But when you hear that criticism from somebody else and it could be the just the one out of ten, you take that to heart and you make that something bigger than what it really is. If you again I just go back to what it is that we’re talking about before you really rooted your foundation and what it is that God has set before you, you can expect retaliation…And so it’s not it’s not gonna come as a surprise. You know it could be legitimate. It could also be illegitimate. And to go back to your concept about love, It’s like I need to continue to love that person and pray for the best for them in spite of the attack or the ridicule. But like I said, if I’m not offended, there might be some real good information in there that I can use to make what it is that I’m doing even better. And so if we have the armor of God on, like, okay, bring it on You know Mhmm. I there’s not a there’s not a hero…in the faith that has not been ridiculed or attacked or denigrated, unjustly. And so we are to expect…that to happen Persecution is a reality you know for a phone Yeah When it comes to reviews business reviews. I’m probably one of the few people that everyone gets an email when you purchase from us if you’re opted in auto responders. They ask for Google reviews among other things, the good and the bad…I wanna know the I thank you for…telling the truth. Whether it’s uncomfortable for me or makes me feel great I want people that are looking into me to know what they can expect on both sides of the equation. And hopefully when those negative reviews come in hopefully I’ll look at them and do what you just said I’ll say…well what can I learn from this Is there any truth in it? Because if there is, there’s truth that is causing someone to create a negative review I need to address it I need to look at my life and say how can I change that? So that review could be a mirror for me looking in the mirror saying what do I need to fix? And I think what it speaks to the customer if it’s not just a somebody whining but they’re giving you legitimate feedback and you respond to it. Authentically…you actually gained trust…because they you took them seriously, you know and you know I’m not for somebody who’s whining or complaining without providing a solution I think you know we’re obligated if we see a problem that to maybe offer a possible solution It doesn’t mean you have to take it and do it but at least they’re giving you you know good feedback but for me as the business owner, I want them to trust me even if we having a disagreement, you know because I want you as a customer. You know I don’t just see you as a a number I see you as a valuable person…and I want to do my best for you And if I failed in doing my best for you this is my opportunity to to make that different. Yeah On the flip side of that, a lot of businesses have the policy that the customer is always right…I don’t have that policy…because sometimes they’re not. and…I love my good customers…but I’m gonna take care of my employees first. And…if somebody is…taking away from, you know my company from my people, and they’re hurting them and wearing them down with negativity i’m sorry You’re not gonna be my customer because they do come first. If they weren’t worthy of coming first they wouldn’t be here anyway. That’s right. So, but it it’s interesting Yeah What can I learn from that I do want the negativity…but if there’s nothing to learn from it and it it’s just who you are, you know negative and and angry…Well I don’t really have room for that I’ll try to help you but…I can’t be my…life mission…What about time management? Do you have a task list things that you’re gonna attack today…I do And so the I would say the one thing about being the entrepreneur that has been kind of a two edge sword is that I like organization…but I also like getting things done And so if the to do list is too big it never gets done. And so you can get lost in a cycle of…feeling defeated because the list is always there. And the fact of the matter is that the list will always be there. So you have to learn how to prioritize…you know what is…most needed and what what needs to be done today. And so…
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What’s interesting for us is in addition to the coaching that we do or I do, we have businesses in real estate especially with, Airbnb, and…it speaks to kind of to your customer review thing because we’re very attuned to that…But so we have to manage our time so that I can address time that I need to spend with my clients and give them the time that they deserve, and what they paid for. but I also have to attend to our customers that are get our guests…either living in our you know properties or about to come in, or they will review us afterwards and when we have to respond to that as well. And so I’m not saying it’s perfect You know there’s many times whereas the the waves will crash in one another and you’re just like, okay Which one do I do first? but I would say for me I it the time management thing especially is something that I pay attention to because…I think time is our most valuable commodity…I need to give time not just to my business but I…we have six kids We have five grand kids right now. And, we have set up our life so that we can be available to them. And so we want to be able to do that as well And so that that’s very important to us how we manage those things as well So it’s not just a matter of you know, having the best business possible although that’s what is important to us but we really want to be invested in giving time especially to our family You know we’re…dog watching we’re grandkid watching we’re putting time in with our kids So it can be very demanding. but that’s what we’re committed to So time management is a big one For me but I like that. That that’s a challenge that I’m willing to to dive in Yeah Sometimes I’ll look at my list and it is too long. And I might take the debt snowball approach where you know in a debt snowball you pay off the smallest debts…first regardless of their in interest rate just to narrow down the list just to make things…easier So a lot of times like okay You know I can bang out five of these tasks and maybe the next ten minutes Let me just make my list more manageable, and and you knock those out sometimes before getting to the other ones that are even more important. Just to make it less overwhelming…I don’t know Yeah It works for me. I like that approach a lot That that makes a lot of sense…Yeah Yeah. What’s your favorite book on the subject…of success hearing God…following his plan for your life Yeah Well for hearing God it’s God Talks so there’s no doubt about that. you know I…A book that I’ve really come to appreciate a lot is atomic habits by James Clear. And so it’s this idea of you know, if you can take…a concept and and drill it down to its you know this not even the smallest common denominator but if it’s a behavior change especially it’s like what is the one thing that I can do And then how can I grease the skids supposedly…to get myself moving in that direction then provide enough of friction…to keep me from relapsing or reverting back? I just thought that that that book was really well written…I like the commentary on the examples that he provides…I think it’s a really smart way to address problem solving…to address behavior change. And so I go back to that book you know from a secular perspective and a business perspective and really a life perspective…so God Talks and atomic habits…they’re easy reads as well You know you don’t…you don’t have to read hard for comprehension. And there’s things that I think are really applicable right away It’s not like you have to work hard to find something that you can actually try and do from the moment you start reading. Jude I think some of my audience is gonna be hearing you answer that question and they’re gonna be saying God. Is that you? Because…in the last…four or five recorded podcasts…you’re the third guest to mention that book atomic habits. The first one was Sean Spire. He’s a fitness trainer. And for him, he talked about atomic habits and how it made him a reader He wanted to be a reader And here’s the funny thing. He said I didn’t I didn’t get the book I got the audio version because I wasn’t a reader. But it talked about two minutes a day to create this habit. So I committed to reading two minutes a day and now I’m a reader. Well that was just a few weeks back…And then someone else on a more recent podcast…had mentioned that same book and now you are…So I will definitely have a link to that book and to the book God Talks, below this podcast to make it easy for people to click through and get those? Yeah What would you say your favorite, testimonial is to what you do possibly helping someone in business or hear the voice of God or follow the…path that he has for them…You mean as it relates to one of my clients? Well whether it’s one of your clients or anyone that you know through God Talks…However…Right…So there’s a a gentleman that Ed is working with who…he has no digital or…the word I’m looking for He has no experience in the app industry. He came from construction, but he…was given a download from God and it was kinda one of those things like really? And he developed this app…which they’re now putting into the marketplace…which I think…might be picked up by Home Depot. And so it it went from…he was very successful in the business that he was working in in construction but this is totally mushroomed…into something that that’s totally different…because it answers a lot of problems that people experience as consumers. Know when they’re trying to find something that they could go to Home Depot to find And so this app provides a bridge, between the consumer having a problem and finding a solution, in the Home Depot store. So from a big business perspective that’s that’s one of the the bigger things you know I’ve had you know more subtle things kinda like what you said about you know something like us talking about atomic habits. You know that I don’t think those are God is not into coincidences. You know if it came more than once you know you kinda think You know God is probably trying to bring something to me. And maybe I’d rather just stop and just ask God you know is it about this or is there something Because sometimes we’ll get pictures and we’re like what was that about? And so you know God is he’s it’s he’s like a a playful father. You know he’ll he’ll say okay come on. I’m gonna I’m gonna show you this Are you interested in this No come on Take one more step So he just keeps backing us He keeps calling us closer. And so things like like you just said about you know atomic habits I refer your listeners…Don’t dismiss that You know it’s fun You know it should be fun It should be easy and light, you know even if there’s you know…a mess around you you know God’s relationship should bring joy. We should feel joy inside. And so, the storms can be around us, and they can impact us and affect us totally. and that’s real You know so we’re not denying We’re not living in denial. But we can still live with joy in our hearts and we can still live to love the the people Yeah. Yeah. There’s a scripture says, but blessed is the one who trusts in the lord whose confidence is in him They will be like a tree planted by the water. That sends out its roots by the stream. Does not fear when heat comes. Its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit That’s from…Jeremiah. And I believe you know having that connection and that confidence in God he is in your life He loves you He is directing your path You know all we have to do is listen and…follow. In the case of the Home Depot example you mentioned the man was in construction…and…found a problem…probably through that experience…in his profession at in construction and said, there could be something to make this better and he…followed that path. He paid attention. Is there something there I think that’s so cool. Yeah. How can people get in touch with you Do you have an email list Do you have a social media where people follow you a website they should check out? I I don’t have a website currently I I am on social media You know if they if they wanna reach out to me directly, my email is: the fitness pastor 44 @ gmail.com… so they can reach out to me there. you know, If you want for your audience, maybe we can sweeten the pot a little bit so for those who reach out to me I’m not sure when you’re gonna post this. But once we decide on what the dates are with that…I can just see who reaches out and I can do a drawing And whoever wins that drawing I’ll send them a free copy of the God Talks book to them Awesome. I like that. And let’s know a little bit more about the services that you offer. Yeah. So God Talks again it literally like what you said in the intro and what I try to portray for myself is my my role I like to tell people is like Do you wanna be you know connected to the best coach in any universe? Well the coach isn’t me. The coach is God. but I like to think that I’m the guide that helped create the introduction or reintroduced you to that coach So my my job is to get you guys introduced and to get out of the way So for me I work with individuals who are you know it doesn’t matter We’re talk been talking business but it does be our business It could be just this idea like what you said what is…what am I supposed to do in life What’s my purpose? You know that could be something or or maybe it’s about, relationships whether it’s a relationship that’s already existing or one that you’re seeking you know and how is God wanting to answer that with you So, I help a lot of individuals that way I do help teams and organizations…who…maybe haven’t thought about running their business this way but are actually maybe open to considering the idea of bringing God into the mix And if not working with the CEO being the CEO. And, actually relegating some time to you know having conversations that are meaningful and bringing God into the midst of that as well So…do focus group work as well amongst different companies And so…it’s kind of a growing piece of work for me right now. Is there anything you wish I had asked or content that you think the audience would benefit from? Yeah I love that question…So thank you for that. what…I don’t really have something that I wish you would ask. I…I’m just glad…that you’re asking these questions. And so for me, it’s…God is on the move right now And for people like you Dr. Haley that are willing to have these conversations and to open these conversations up so that they’re not taboo and that we can make them you know a public conversation. I just wanna thank you, for that because I think we need more of that. I think too often especially Christians…we’ve…this idea of love has been equated to tolerance and you know those aren’t the same thing. And we have to speak out, but we speak out in love. And so I’m glad that you’re doing this and you’re speaking out in love and you’re allowing these conversations to have So Thank you. Less about me wanting you to ask a question I I’m just glad and I just wanna encourage you to to keep doing this And I really appreciate…Awesome Thank you Thank you for that. Alright For the audience, there will be links below the content below the YouTube video on the blog page, and you have Jude’s email address. feel free to ask questions Use the comment section. I’ll get back to you And if there’s something I can’t answer I’ll ask Jude to get back to that particular question Thank you so much Jude Thank you so much for joining me This was a…great learning opportunity. Thank you Dr. Haley I appreciate you
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