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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro Snip
01:03 Introduce Dr. Otto Janke
01:30 Dr. Janke explains why he finally wrote his book “You Were Born To Be Healthy”.
03:10 You were born with 100% level of health. Everyone’s level of health is different.
05:20 Dr. Otto describes his best week in practice.
07:10 What is chiropractic and why for babies?
08:42 The analogy between planting in the garden and giving humans the best opportunity for health
09:34 Why is chiropractic important for a newborn?
10:35 Dr. Haley describes his favorite story adjusting an infant when new in practice.
12:23 chiropractic is not about pain…
12:46 Dr. Otto explains why he is “the poop whisperer”.
13:37 Aloe Vera for better health
14:50 Chiropractic education for Dr. Otto at Palmer Chiropractic is described.
16:42 The differences between medical school and chiropractic school
17:50 Why Dr. Otto went to chiropractic school.
18:28 We are the most over medicated. We are born with everything we need
19:47 If you threw all the medicine in the ocean, this would happen
20:00 History of Chiropractic
21:22 Why chiropractors do what they do
22:28 Why do people still get chiropractic when they have been coming for years and still have pain?
23:36 What kind of chiropractic does Dr. Otto do?
26:20 What are some misconceptions people have about chiropractic?
29:05 What is longevity and how does chiropractic fit in?
31:30 What is heart rate variability and how is it measured?
35:30 How long does it take to see consistent results in heart rate variability?
36:50 When is the last time Dr. Otto Janke got a chiropractic adjustment and why?l
38:30 What does Dr. Janke do for fun and physical fitness and what does he think he should be able to do?
41:55 Is pickleball a cult?
43:38 Dr. Haley’s review of the book “You Were Born To Be Healthy”
TRANSCRIPT
I read two sentences in a book, and the first sentence was that we are the most over medicated. I remember, I remember today we’re the most over medicated, most over surgery country in the world, and we’re not the healthiest. that was years ago. It’s still today. Still true today. Maybe even more so. the next sentence was that we everything we’ve ever needed to be our healthiest was locked within us. We need to unlock that to allow our our health potential.
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Doctor Otto Janke is a chiropractor in Cortland, New York, where he maintains his practice at Janke Family Chiropractic. He is the author of the book You Were Born to Be Healthy.
Yeah.
Doctor Janke thank you so much for joining me here today. I’m curious, what inspired you to write a book?
That’s a good question. First of all, thanks for having me on. Thanks for having me on. Second of all, it was, know what’s amazing is when you go to write a book and then you, you, you put all this time energy and focus into it, and then editor sends it back to you, and you’re like, did did I ever take an English writing class that I ever take an English class?
Did I pass an English class? Because it sure as hell didn’t look like I did. all the editing was amazing how this, this this this point doesn’t doesn’t make sense to that point over there. And it’s like, you know, it had been a dream of mine to write a book for years. And I got to a point where it was either I was going to write a book, I’d been thinking about it for years, and I was either going to write a book.
So I took one long, cold winter up here in upstate New York. And, I said to myself, either I was going to do this, or I was going to get rid of all the information in my head. So I would go exercise hard for minutes, then go up to a local state university and plop down and write for or hours is just mind bomb.
Just unload. And I use it so I use it as I use it as a business card tell you the truth more than anything, we give it to all my practice members, all new patients, and I use it as a business card. And it’s, a wasn’t simple, but it’s been very effective for me.
You know, we chiropractors have a message for our patients. We want to teach them these principles that we live by the principles of health and where it comes from. And they don’t get it overnight. It’s good that they have a book to read.
You were Born to Be Healthy.
You’re, you know, it’s, it’s a fundamental aspect. I think we’re all born to be healthy. We’re all born with a % level of health. You’re % is going to be different than my %. but we’re all born with a level of health, and I think it’s adamant upon us. I think it’s absolutely fundamental for us to unlock that, unlock that health potential as much as we can.
And, you know, and stop screwing around with it. I mean, you know, we have a such a reliance upon someone else taking care of us, and it’s, it’s not it’s everything we’ve needed is it’s packaged perfectly right there. We got to unlock it and let it rock.
I agree with you. And it also reminds me, and it’s part of our chiropractic philosophy. something that I got from a recent guest, Terry Tucker, on a previous podcast. Not only where we born to be healthy, he said, he talked about how so many people go through their life thinking that they have to accumulate and what can they add to it, where he kind of says,
I believe you’re born with,
everything you need and you’re not here to gather, but to empty out into the world.
you have everything you need.
I listened to that, that podcast and, you know, none of us take it. We don’t take it with us. None of us take it with us after we pass. And so, I’m a firm believer we should love as much as possible, live as much, laugh as much, have as much as possible right now.
But, and then actually just empty the tank. I mean, just let’s let’s go. Let’s have fun.
Yeah. Yeah, I love it. That’s part of our chiropractic, philosophy. You know, we love to serve and give to our patients and and bless them. And I don’t know about you, but it gets me all charged up every time I see someone’s life improved, that excites me. That’s better than the paycheck.
It, it the paycheck helps. But the, having, having those people in your office, you know, I, I tell the classic story of my my best week in practice was was not one that was. I can’t even tell you what the finances were that day, how many people we saw or anything. I can’t even remember those numbers.
But it started off as as a one of our practice members had been here for years. I saw his mom. I saw his family, his brother, and he came in One Monday morning. And he was here before we actually got going. And I said, so what’s going on today? And use a big old bear of a man, you know, he had a baseball mitt for a hand, you know, and, he, he said, that his wife had passed that night, the previous night.
And, well, we knew she wasn’t in great health and she was probably going to pass. And it’s always a shock when someone does And, I, I adjusted him and, I said, I’ll see it at the services. And I went back to my office and I cried. That was on Monday. But then on Thursday, a mother brings in her newborn.
I mean, not even not even hours old. Newborn brings her by the office and said she had been a, you know, a member of ours. And she said, would you would you check my child? Yeah, I’d love to. And so at the beginning of the week, we have someone passing and we, we have at the end of the week and, you know, someone coming into life and, you can’t beat those times.
And that, that was, that was by far the best week in practice. And it was it’s, it’s we’re filled up with like that on a regular basis. And that’s just, keeps me going on every day.
that really is cool. You know, when you, I want to know a little bit about your perspective on chiropractic, what it is. We all have our little different, you know, takes on what it is and what it is that we do. But you talked about the baby. I’d love to know about chiropractic for babies. And what have you seen?
I actually have a favorite, infant story myself.
You know, it’s, you know, it’s, I don’t have children. And so what was unique was, in my first years of practice, I referred all, all babies out to, other chiropractors and, a couple in Ithaca and, and until a, until a practice member says she’s pregnant, says, listen, I bring my whole family here. I want you to take care of my baby.
And I was like, I was like, well, okay. And I said to myself, if the international chiropractic pediatric ICPA ever comes anywhere near, I will take that, certification. And they came to Syracuse, which is miles away. I was like, you son of a gun. You guys called my bluff on that.
And I went up there and, and a lot of the classes, I’d be the only male or one of the few males. I definitely the only one over. I guess I was about or that I’m now, by far, and one of the one of the young doctors says, you know, you you’re great with adjusting these kids.
you know, your children must love. You can adjust this. I don’t have I don’t have kids. And they’re like, what are you doing here? I said, because I see kids and I, you know, there’s a demand for it.
if we can help those kids to be as healthy as possible for as long as possible, we’ve resurrected a generation. We’ve given a generation what they what they need to be as healthy as possible for decades to come.
so I up the northeast up here this last week and is is planting your garden weekend and so I went got plants and so what would we do with plants. Well, we give them the best soil, the best fuel, the best structure so they can be around for as long as possible. We’re doing the same thing with, with those babies. And everybody’s asked me, aren’t you scared of adjusting a baby? No, adjusting babies is simple as compared to the year old who I had a just out in my parking lot because he can’t get in there or, you know, get in the office.
So the kids are fun. I’ve never we just had a two year old here who, I love having the kids draw me on the on the chalkboard and, I love that that we’re running a calendar of that coming up. That’s just it’s it’s so much fun.
Now for the listening audience, why is chiropractic important for a newborn?
Very simple is that, I want to make sure that they always have symmetry of motion. So do they turn their head equally and equally and evenly left and right? Do their arms do their legs? Do they twist and turn equal and evenly? Second of all, is that for in my practice, when the baby’s born, no one checks their nervous system to see for those symmetries they check do the Apgar scores literally to see if they’re alive and able to thrive.
Well, there’s a big difference between being a surviving and thriving. We’re going to see how the baby can do and knowing that the baby will be born. The most physically traumatic thing they’ve ever been through is their own. Their own birth is we got to make sure that they have the best opportunity to be their best for decades to come. And, I think we are wellsuited to do that.
Yeah. I want to drive at home with my favorite testimony when it comes to adjusting an infant. And I was only in practice maybe a year, brand new. One of my patients brought his girlfriend with his girlfriend’s baby to see me. She was completely skeptical of what chiropractic could do.
See it all the time.
And this baby had Erb’s palsy, and I, I that’s the one. That’s the deformity, right? Did I say that right?
Yep. Forget it. It’s been a long time since I’ve been in school.
ErbDuchenne.
And and I, you know, I completely blew it because she handed me the the baby and I put this infant on my shoulder, and I accidentally put my hands in exactly the right place. And as soon as I did that, I felt something give away. Now, adjusting infants are. It’s a very gentle thing.
Oh, easy.
So here’s someone that’s skeptical. I hadn’t even done an exam yet. I just put the infant on my shoulder and happened to go to palpate the neck and felt something give away and I knew I was done. So I handed the baby back. So I had this skeptical person looking at me and said, she says, oh, you’re done. That’s it. Oh yeah, that’s going to fix a lot of things. And this infant hasn’t used, you know, the one arm yet at all. And she had the baby and physical therapy. She called crying a couple hours later.
Yep.
using her arm for the first time. She wasn’t doing push ups or anything like that. But the mother knew something was definitely different. And all of a sudden her baby is now using her bad arm. Yep, it’s not about pain. And you mentioned symmetry of motion, which can not only translate to just how the body functions physically as far as strength and symmetry, but everything inside the body, the organs.
Everywhere. So, you know, that’s one of my favorites. My, I am I’m the poop whisperer. And that, they always bring their babies to me when their babies aren’t pooping. And, you adjust them, and then the parents call you from the ride home, and they say, you know, you wouldn’t believe, but the baby actually just pooped her pants.
It was great. the whole car stinks. you’re like, well, you know, congratulate. I’m happy for you. I don’t know if that’s a great thing. They’re like, oh, the number of times that happens and that happens in offices all over America. I know it does, but, it’s, I mean, I’ll be I’ll be straight with you on this day if I’m not, if I haven’t gone the bathroom, you know, by in the morning, I’m calling the police department.
If I know I’m calling somebody. I can’t imagine being a being a four month old who hasn’t had a bowel movement in or days. I mean, I just I can’t if it’s, you know, it’d be like six months for me right now. It’s like, that’s astounding.
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I love seeing them, we see families. I see them from pregnant to much, much older. I see, I see them all. It’s fun. Yeah.
Now, where did you go to chiropractic school.
Pisiform university, Davenport, Iowa. I went to Palmer.
Awesome. A lot of people, they think, you know, chiropractors, they get a few years a school. What was education like for you? How many years of college? How many years of chiropractic?
so I did, I started with three years. so this is, this is, typical me, three years in a two year program, at a community college. And then I, I traveled around for a while, came back, and I did, one year at, state, and that was just prerequisites. I took. I took my physics, chemistry, organic chemistry, anatomy, physiology.
I, I did that for a year. I didn’t do much besides that. And I was, honestly way over my head. But, when you have a goal and a dream and a vision, you do what needs to be done no matter what the obstacles are. And when I got into chiropractic college, I failed my first test. And I thought to myself, I’m not meant for this. This is. I’m over my head. I’m in deep water. put it down. And and, it it didn’t come easy to me. I’m a, I’m a grinder when it comes to this stuff. A lot of people are much, much, I mean, much more astute They learn quicker, and I do. I don’t, so it took me. It was tough, but, I graduated honors. Graduated with honors and research, and, it was it was hard. It was hard, but it was it was cool. I mean, it was cool. The amount of education I got from there was was an immense. But the years after that have been bizarrely wild. with the amount of information I have had to learn. yeah, we do it. You do it?
Yeah. It’s. Yeah. Always learning. It’s a definitely a continuous thing. You know, for me, I never learned a lot of, medicine. I know a lot of the conditions that people have and the diet, their diagnoses. I think we did. We were taught that pretty well in school. when it came to treating with medicine, we never really dug into that.
We never really learned it. We treat with manual treatments with hands, chiropractic, moving bones to decompress the nervous system so people’s bodies can function better. But there’s a definite equivalence from like a medical school and a chiropractic school. Very similar classes. But we don’t treat with drugs.
It’s the first year they talk about the first year. Year and a half is essentially the same. In both of those you get through your primary sciences. you know, we all took cell physiology and the like. I mean, you know, all that stuff. Like what? What? but then you get the cool stuff which is being able to help people and, you know, I, I’ve the reason I got into chiropractic was because of, I used to live in Las Vegas, and, my brother said you should be a chiropractor. I didn’t know what a chiropractor was. he was a PT and he said you should be a chiropractor.
So I used to go to the library a lot in Las Vegas for three very important reasons. One is that, they always ran the AC at the, at the library. So that was very important because here in Las Vegas, we didn’t run that in my apartment all the time. you know, I could read any book or magazine I wanted to for free. Very important. And then, I could take a nap any time I want to. So those are very important reasons why I chose chiropractic at this time. But it was I read a I read two sentences in a book, and the first sentence was that we are the most over medicated. I remember, I remember today we’re the most over medicated, most over surgery country in the world, and we’re not the healthiest.
that was years ago. It’s still today. Still true today. Maybe even more so. the next sentence was that we everything we’ve ever needed to be our healthiest was locked within us. We need to unlock that to allow our our health potential. I, I closed the book at that time said, son of a bitch. Someone else feels the same way I do.
I had to scramble back to find the page. I got that little, the little golf pencil with a little piece of paper, these two adult libraries. I got it, and I wrote down the toll free number because we didn’t have long distance. and, it was Palmer College of Chiropractic. I literally ran back to my apartment, called them up and said, hey, I said, hi, this is Otto. can you send me everything you have? I’m coming to your place. And they said, have you applied yet? I said, apply this the first time I even called you much as applied. And that was in like the spring time. And by the fall, I was back. Back here taking my prerequisites. And then within a year or so, I was, in Davenport, Iowa, and it was, when you find your gang, you find your gang.
Was it BJ Palmer that said something to the effect of if you took all the medicines and threw them into the ocean, it would be good for mankind or bad for the fish.
Bad. Terrible, terrible for the fish. Terrible for the fish. That wouldn’t be good.
Palmer School of Chiropractic, the first school of chiropractic, I believe. Right. Was it. correct. . first was, D.D. Palmer, my D.D. Palmer. Short time after that, started a school, a couple of years after he discovered chiropractic. Wild. the the origins of chiropractic. But, the whole basis is how can we unlock those those how can we unlock your best, best health potential? And, you know, I mean, I, I educate my patients on fundamentals, which is if, if you want the best out of me, you want the best out of my care.
And I ask them straight like this. Do you want the best I got? They’re like, yeah, of course I said, I don’t need the best out of you to. And they. What do you mean? I said, I’m gonna need you to start exercising. If you don’t exercise, you gotta start exercising. Because when you exercise, what I do works better.
And then you just start eating this way. Well, why? Because when what I do works better. When you’re doing that, I need you to find a regular system of sleep. A regular routine of sleep. why? Because when I. When I do what I do, it’s going to work better when that is. And so I need you to this this, this this this is this.
And when we start putting that all together, it’s like, dude, you’re you’re dramatically better. Not just the aches and pains. The aches and pains for me are the easy stuff. I know that some people think that’s the it’s like miraculous how we can help with that. That’s the easy stuff. I gotta help you prevent next time from happening and then , get you back into living so you can have the next number, a decades be your next best decades.
And, it’s it’s not hard to do. It’s it’s different, but it’s not hard to do. And once you start reaping the benefits of that dude. Game on. Let’s go. Let’s do more.
Yeah, but don’t do all of these things too good, because you might not need me anymore. And I don’t want to go out of business.
Well, you know, the funny thing about it is we I reframe my patients and tell them that, you know, it’s it’s like saying that if you do all those things, you don’t need your dentist anymore. It’s it’s, Nope. We have people I have many patients who have been with us for decades, and, they do that.
Here’s a funny thing. I had a, group of patients on , the morning we see shifts of patients, and I asked them, I said, how long have you been here? The average. They had average being there for ten years averaged. And I said, why are you still here? I said, do you have any more aches and pains?
They’re like, yeah, of course we do. I said, so why are you still here? And they said, it’s not because we have aches and pains. It’s because we’re able to do what we want to do when we want to do it. And one said, this one stuck with me deeply. They said, we don’t hold you responsible for our aches and pains.
I said, what they said, we don’t hold you responsible for that. That’s our responsibility. It’s your job to help us to be our best so we can go do that stuff. And I said that was the most logical thing I’ve ever heard in a long, long time. And I wish I had said that, but that’s that’s that’s the truth there. you know, here’s a reality. I think I’ve got magic and lightning coming out of my pisiforms but, if you if you are, if you’re a skier, you’re going to wipe out, you can’t hold me responsible for that, I’ll help you afterwards. I help you before, but I can’t help you because you wiped out. But my job is to help you to be up on that slope even more.
We give people that opportunity. They’re like, let’s go the game on. Let’s do that.
Are you doing upper cervical or full spine?
I’m a very posture based doctor. so some of that has to be full spine. Some of it has to be upper cervical. Knowing that, the dense amount of mechanoreceptors, our posture receptors are up in this area and then around the, the hip joints.
I focus on it and, we find where the, the subluxation is at. Let’s go.
Yeah. What techniques are you using?
So mostly biophysics, chiropractic, biophysics. But it’s, it’s the, the doctor. The doctor. Otto. Janky method. Perhaps you’ve heard of that?
sure. Just now.
Yeah, that. I think because it’s really.
Michael Haley Method executive. But my technique is very big in this office. Right here. Right here.
Yeah. Yeah.
But, you know, well, I, I’m kind of familiar with, toggle technique. I had a specific toggle table when I started, but I found myself adding a little side posture to that, and eventually I was a full spine chiropractor. Yep.
You know, you find out where the body isn’t, isn’t functioning. It’s best. And, you adjust. And, I have many friends who are upper cervical specialists, but I also, I mean, I talk to people who are just full, who are full spine. It’s, you know, I think there’s five joints in the body which need to be assessed TMJ, C, C, T, L, S, and then, the feet.
And so we assess those on a regular basis. Now, if we can mechanically get you working better, your neurologically going to be dramatically better.
You know, I had my TMJ fixed by a black belt. True story was out. I got hit on this side when I was about ten. Yep, I had problems for about ten years. And when I was about I got hit on this side.
You well I, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend those, be your, your pathways to being better. but we see a lot of people with TMJ problems. It you know, you look at the TMJ, the intricacies of that joint alone because you have to be able to talk like this all the time, but then you have to be able to distinguish between a very ripe banana and, you know, you know, cashews.
I mean, it’s astounding how different that joint can be and how the intricacies and how how the innervation of that, that joint is just it’s wild and it’s, it’s I mean, it’s in it’s duct taped together. It’s really it’s really a it’s a bad joint to be doing is what it does. But phenomenal. It’s, you know, you get that, aligned people are you open up their life.
Yeah. What are some misconceptions people have about chiropractic?
well, geez, Louise, years in practice, I could do we could do four hours on this alone. One is, I’m not a medical doctor. And I said never claimed I was. none of my advertisements show that, I have a very. So here’s my reality is that I have a I’m a genius. And that amounts of information, and that is chiropractic.
number one is number two is they think they wonder if we they they wonder more if we prescribe and. Nope. I could have been an MD if I wanted to, but My philosophy was that we are the most over surgery, most over overmedicated country. I don’t think me being a better writer of prescriptions or a better surgeon helps our country to be healthier.
I think we need to find we need we need to go way before that. you know, you get the ones “Am I a real doctor?” I said, no, I don’t know. Pinch me. Find out. but, you know, it’s, I think people I think people want someone who can help them to be better. I think people are literally dying for that.
And we should we should give them the opportunity to be healthier. And the studies, I did my I did a Ted talk last year and TedX talk and we are looking at, maybe or prescriptions a year. Americans are filling every man, woman, child, every man, woman, child. And so I don’t take any prescriptions that mean there’s a guy.
There’s a guy in Passaic, new Jersey, is honking down like, you know, prescriptions a year. I don’t know if he need them. I don’t know if he’s healthier for that. I don’t know if he’s going to be pushing his longevity for decades to come by doing it. I don’t know, but I do know that that there’s a miscommunication in the body when you start having all those chemical reactions going on and it’s impossible, it’s impossible to find out what those chemical reactions are.
But because it’s so intricate and so long lasting. But it’s, I think we should give people an opportunity to be healthier for longer and better without medications, without surgeries. Understand that when the house is on fire, you need to call a fireman. But after the fire’s been put out. We never call architects.
We never call people to come rebuild the house to be better again than it was before. That really happens. And that’s our health care system, is that we are we have fantastic firemen, but we have damn few architects that help the house to be better. And I think that’s really my specialty is, and I call it the Architect of Health is we’re going to be your we’re going to be your leaders, or I’m gonna be your chiropractor for next years. I’m not going to be around, but I’m going to be your chiropractor.
That’s great. And speaking of years, how does chiropractic tie in with longevity and what is longevity?
So longevity, if you if you look at longevity and the definition and and online it they call it someone’s long life, it’s like, if that wasn’t the most boring definition that there ever was, I don’t know what is. So in my in my company empire Longevity, we put it as the definition, as the actual intent of being so healthy that you leave something great behind by what you’ve done today. Now, that definition makes me want to get up and push myself just a little bit more every single day and expand out to help more people.
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And so longevity is how can we help you to have more, better years, not just more years, but more better years? Because if you had the opportunity to be around for more years and you’re incapable of laughing, living, loving, the question is the why?
Why are we even around? But if I can help you to be around for more and to laugh more, live more, be more, that people are are literally knocking down the doors for that. I think chiropractic is massively suited for that, in that if we can get the connection from here to all around, get your body functioning better, you have opportunity.
Now we have the basic now we have the basis for that to be able to be done. And my last talk was that, Sherman College of Chiropractic and I talked about how if we can influence heart rate variability, which is the testing I do in my office on a regular basis. I’m doing for years, if in heart rate variability has a direct link, when your heart rate variability is strong, your opportunity for longevity for those more better years is greatly increased.
Well, I showed that chiropractic adjustments can improve heart rate variability. And, I’m working on a big program with that, with a big, agency also. I can’t I need a little more information.
What’s high rate variability and how do you measure it.
Heart rate variability is a tool. It’s been around for decades. So some of you some of your listeners have used maybe an aura ring. we use a circle ring. those are used to actually measure heart rate variability. And to maybe your iWatch has it also. And it measures that or so and woop the woop will do that. And they measure it to find out the adaptability of your nervous system. So it measures. Are you someone who think are you in sympathetic drive that fight or flight? Do you think there’s a bear in the room? Well, if you think there’s a bear in the room, it’s going to dramatically change the way you function. Even if you feel great.
If there’s a bear in the room, how would your digestion be? Your sleep? You’re able to repair, be able to concentrate, be able to focus, be able to have deep, deep thought. All that would be altered. Wow. That’s someone who has their foot in the gas pedal. Well, someone has their foot on the brake. That’s a parasympathetic. they can never mount a charge against anything. And so you look at this and we measure it by, we use this system in my office called the Insight, the subluxation station. So we get we get your heart rate, we get your skin conductance. That’s your electricity gets through your fingers and then your body temperature. They take that, put those all together and they come up with heart rate variability. you start looking at that. And studies have been done for decades on this stuff. And, a lot of it is if we can get your heart rate variability, be optimized, not high, not low, but optimized in that sweet spot, you function, you function so much better, you’re able to adapt. If you can’t adapt, here’s a reality you weren’t going to be living.
If your body, if your body didn’t have the fever, then the bug would run wild. That caused a fever. If your body couldn’t repair a a cut, you would die. If your body here’s, let’s get a little bit gross on this one. If your body didn’t either have the… didn’t throw up or had the diarrhea, then the bug would run wild on you. So those are all adaptations. But those are, those are momentary, adaptations. Now we need to have adaptations for thousands, millions of moments all through your life for, for years to come. And that’s where heart rate variability come. Do you do you believe that there is a bear in the room? Well, I look around right now. There is none. That’s not what I asked. I said, do you think there is. There’s a there’s your nervous system. Think there is. And so we measure that on a regular basis. And in I was published in a journal, the Journal of Medical Cases on a case study with a woman post breast cancer. And we watched her literally Resurrect. She came. She came back alive. And we we measured that with heart rate variability. We adjusted her the whole time. She wasn’t able to exercise massive Fatigue, digestion and mass, brain fog, all the all the classics. They’re post breast cancer, post chemo, and, we watched her come alive and it was phenomenal. Phenomenal As a matter of fact I just saw her, just for this week.
And it was, it’s neat stuff. And so if I’m going to talk to you about nervous system, I measure nervous system, too, and it’s, it’s noninvasive. Takes minutes to do. And it’s a phenomenal piece of information.
So how long would it take for someone to see a consistent change in their heart rate variability? And maybe you are measuring with the subluxation station. when are you going to see those results? Do you check a month later? are the results instant with chiropractic? Is it more a lifestyle change?
So if you know the some of the studies have been done and I’ve gone through this study for a long time, you look at some of them, some look at a very short period change and they look at, okay, we adjusted and the heart rate variability got better. My my question always is how long does it stay that way?
Because I don’t want to be the Band-Aid to see that get better. I want to watch it for months, years. My study was over, I think or months, adjustments over that time. And people ask me why adjustments? because I need to stop the study and then publish the information. you know, I could have still had it done. We just did the heart rate variability with her this week. but so this is a baseline. This is a baseline for us. We’re also going to instruct you upon meditating, breathing, these are things that are going to help you get there. Also. But, we need to get a baseline of, what it is, what your neurology is. So then we can add those other things on that. Those things work better too.
When’s the last time you got adjusted?
a week ago… two weeks ago.
Great.
I go and again, I don’t do it because of aches or pains. I do it because when I am, when I’m better, I can. I can shop my office more often. More often better. the classic is I have missed because of illness. I think four days in years because of illness. and all of them were, I think all of them were like food poisoning. So that asks me how to be healthier, but don’t ask me where to go to dinner. I mean, it’s I.
I yeah, I think like, similar to you, you know, I don’t get sick. I did get and I got
but I didn’t know it.
Oh okay I knew it. But, you know, I was fine a week later. Yeah. But it was it was a rough week. It was, you know, definitely fever and low energy and, chills. but my wife and I, we both, we both got it. We maybe missed a couple days at work. we still worked through it, and I’m.
No, I’m not practicing. I’m not seeing patients. I do practice, I see some patients, but I have a very small practice. My nutrition company occupies most of, my time, the. Yep website and filling orders. So we didn’t have to worry about being around people and giving it to anyone. Yep. Yep. So. Yep.
what do you what do you do as far as, being active? Are you playing pickleball or what do you do that at your age? What should you be capable of doing?
any damn thing I want to do? I don’t, they just they they just made pickleball courts down the street from me. I’m not in pickleball yet. I’ll be a treasure. I just don’t get it. I mean, I know people are big, huge fans. I just don’t get it. yet it sure seems to me like.
Well, I just don’t get it. I love to lift. I lift four times a week. I’m cardio. we’re doing a thing in my practice in my office right now with our patients, actually, with people from around America. It’s called the summer five. The summer . And, you make a a pledge versus yourself that you will do so many miles between, Memorial Day and Labor Day. I don’t care if it’s bike, swim, pogo stick, run, walk, row, whatever it is. But you you fulfill this and you do it. And so we engage people for this time. I run a couple five K’s, this summer, and, it’s not pretty. I look like someone who is, being tased while that’s happening, but, you know, I push myself and do this, I love working out. it’s, it makes me think better. It helps my emotions, I function better, I sleep better, there’s a number of things that when people ask me. So people people ask you this also in practice, what can I do outside of here? And so what they’re really asking me is what can I do outside of here to not be here. And, and so once I realized that, it changed my answer and it’s like, well, fantastic. Once again, do you want the best from me? Yes. Okay then I need the best from you is I need you. I’m not going to give you low back exercises if you’re not exercising. I’m not going to give you low back exercises because I need you to start exercising.
I need you to start having regular sleep. I’m not going to give you exercises for your core if you’re not sleeping well, if you’re not, if you’re not exercising, if you’re not in a for me, a plant based plant forward diet, if you’re not going through some kind of mental emotional, rest and focus, I so I need you have to this this this this this this this.
Because when you do that, what I do just works so much better because your brain works so much better. And so, you know, I love exercise, and I sleep like a banshee. I eat well, I have fun and. But, you know, and I also love to do because I’m in the Finger Lakes of New York because we go hiking a lot, and it’s, being out in nature.
We take, my greyhound out, and it’s, it’s one of those aspects. I don’t know how people don’t do that stuff. And I’m going to be one of those people is going to be doing that well. And my s, because that’s how I’m playing the game. I’m playing the game for the next years, years, years. I’m playing the game for that long. And so to understand that, what do I have to do now to make sure I’m around for that long? And so it’s this this this this And and when I think.
Of my previous landlord who goes hiking and he’s in his early s.
It’s it’s beautiful and it’s, we discover more places, you know, the apps that tell you where the places are at to go hiking. It’s, you know, again, we take my dog and it’s it’s it’s it’s great. And, I can’t imagine missing all that.
Yeah. Well, you know, I couldn’t imagine missing pickleball.
Well, I’m sure I, I’m going to be one of those guys who, once I get into, I’ll be like, oh, I got. But it’s.
I didn’t know until once I played and it was like, wow, this is actually a lot of fun. And my wife got addicted rather quickly, too. And or times a week now, just this year, we just started earlier this year.
Yeah, that’s a good time. That’s how all cults are. That’s all cults are.
Just once or twice year. You know.
I actually had a chiropractor in here on the podcast and he was talking about treating pickleball injuries. And, you know, he’s he plays pickleball. He’s really into it. I thought it was pretty neat. And that was probably the teaser for me that maybe spiked a little bit of an interest. And I tried it and everyone, the courts are always packed and everyone kind of knows each other out there.
It’s like, like you said, it’s like a little cult It’s a.
Little. It’s a cult Everybody knows it is. It’s, like I said, they’re they’re making courts like two blocks from my house. It’s like it’s right there. It’s like, okay, okay, I’ll go. I’ll join.
You know, you’ll join. You’ll you’ll you’ll be one of us.
I’ll see it is a cult!
Yeah.
I don’t have all the gear yet. And the head bands in this special battles and, you know, and all shoes. I don’t have all that stuff yet, but, Yeah, it’s getting tempting, though.
They’re getting you. They’re getting you in.
Yeah. What are we going to find in your book? I haven’t read it yet. what is what’s your favorite chapter? How does it help and inspire people?
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