In this episode, we review John Ortiz’ story of meeting Rodney Stockton and how he learned about aloe vera. Jonathan, the editor of this post on Substack narrates. We discuss the story and compare notes regarding the accuracy of these historical events.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro Snip
00:04:44 Reading “Aloe Vera Gel: Food of the Gods”
00:07:17 Where did “Food Of The Gods” come from?
00:07:38 Does Aloe Vera Cure Cancer?
00:08:18 Who is Rodney Stockton?
00:15:52 Why do many medical Doctors think “aloe vera” causes cancer?
00:27:37 How much aloe vera can you drink in a day?
00:32:48 How did Jonathan write an aloe vera song?
00:34:15 The Aloe Vera Song “Food Of The Gods”
00:40:25 What does raw aloe vera taste like?
00:42:45 What does Ayurveda say about the different tastes?
TRANSCRIPT
This healer introduces him to aloe vera gel, which makes quick work of his burns. But Rodney the chemist wants to know more. What other things could it do? What is the best variety?
You are listening to the Dr. Haley Show, the podcast dedicated to helping you optimize your health. Each episode there will be an interview or a message to help you discover better health. We will be featuring health radicals on the show to bring new ideas to the table, as well as doubling down on key fundamentals to support you living your best life.
Your host is no other than the founder of Haley Nutrition Dr. Michael Haley.
This is the Dr. Haley Show podcast. And you know, if I give these two guys introductions, that’s it’s too much. Jonathan has way too much education. He’s got like three degrees in music and all kinds of stuff. And John, the Pranic energy healer. Check out one of the other podcasts where I give their credentials. Today we’re going to do a little historical review The Life of Rodney Stockton, the things that we know and kind of go into John Ortiz, relationship with Rodney Stockton, how he came to know him.
Guys, thank you for joining me again. And John Ortiz, I think this talk is critical because people that knew Rodney well, there’s not many of us left. You know, Rodney, if he was alive, let me think he would be, I don’t know like 115 now or something like that. Yeah. You know, his years and they were a long time ago.
He passed in 2009 at 96 years old, so. Well, well, that makes it easier. But you got you came to know him. You discovered Stockton Aloe. Where, when? How did all that come to happen? You’re. Hey, I remembered there was a patient, that I had that came up to me and told me that she had, you know, had stage four cancer, and she’d healed herself.
And, I said, well, you got my attention. How did you hear yourself say for it? Because I drink aloe vera gel and I’m like, okay, what else did you do? And she goes, no, no, no, you don’t understand. This is a very special aloe gel. You got to meet my friend Rodney Stockton. And so,
I was curious and I said, okay, so I, I took a trip and met him, and he had more energy than I did.
And so there was a part of me that just said, Holy cow, what’s he doing here? He’s running around like hyperactive, you know? And that’s where the journey got started, because I started to asked him a question. We had a conversation about aloe vera gel and the history, and
we wrote a story about it, Jonathan and I, and I thought we could do what I call an interactive reading where he would read a paragraph, and then we’d have a discussion paragraph by paragraph.
Does that work? Because that kind of gives you all the back of it. Let’s do that. Can I ask you what your patient’s name was that told you about him? Sure. That was Janice Jones beautiful soul. You actually, referenced her in that original, thing. And she had known Rodney 20 years before aloe, so she had a background with Rodney
that was, you know, second to none.
And
she gave me this file of information about Rodney
and such because she was a researcher and, you know, I’m still looking for that file because I didn’t really understand, like, why did you give it to me? She said, well, I just yeah, in the resources of this show below the video underneath the podcast. However you’re listening to it, I’m going to make sure I put a link to what I think.
I have the Janice Jones video testimonial. Yeah. All right, let’s do this interactive story reading. Okay. Okay. This is, this is a post on our Substack at Triadhealing.com, and, this is the first one we did. So, the way we work was John recorded his story into his iPhone, and we transcribed it using, the AI transcription.
And then I cleaned it up in ChatGPT and then I, ghost wrote it, basically rewrote it and added some pictures.
All right let’s go to the substack article. Aloe Vera gel: Food of the Gods by John Ortiz
with
Jonathan Adelson.
All right. Okay. Here we go. So the first section is called Janice. Back in the early 2000s, I was living in Florida and working as an energy healer. One day, a client of mine, Janice, claimed she had cured herself of stage four cancer. I was intrigued, impressed even. I asked her how she did it. She said, she said she did a lot of aloe vera gel.
I smiled politely and asked what else she did. She said nothing that had been the only change she made in her routine.
I thought to myself, that must be some magical gel. Where can I get me some of that? Well, it turns out this aloe came from a guy named Rodney, and it wasn’t your garden variety health food store. Aloe either.
So, you know, at this point, because there are a few things to talk about in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And one of those things being the only change that she made. So you know, a lot of times
in science for instance, you would, you would change one thing. So you know what you can most likely attribute it to.
And I have this problem all the time. People will call me up and say, you know, is it possible that I, you know, that the Aloe’s giving me diarrhea? Well, not our brand. Other brands might because the outer leaf. And it’s possible, of course in rare circumstance that this might. What else have you changed. And there’s this, you know, list of things because they’re throwing everything they can at it, which I think is actually a good
approach when you have a cancer, I think you want to make a lot of changes, cutting out a lot of bad stuff.
Of course, anything that’s bad, you get rid of it and then replacing those things with good things. So usually when you’re fighting a cancer, there are going to be a lot of changes. If you’re doing things naturally. But this was her one change. And Rodney used to talk about it like, yeah, just throwing three glasses of aloe.
You’ll be fine. I think that’s a little bit of a reckless approach. Yeah, but when I see stories like this, this isn’t the first time I’ve come
across this where it’s the only change they had made. So it does sound legit. Reputable. Yeah. And there will be a link there her telling this story. Yeah. And I’ll say this is that she was convinced that was the main factor in her healing.
She thought you know of all the different aspects she felt like and we didn’t know about microbiome. We didn’t know about healing the gut. We didn’t know how it worked or why it work. We just were drinking this food of the gods, which that term came from historical reference to all different civilizations that would have this aloe vera gel.
They would call it the food of the gods. So that was that was the reference of it. Yeah. All right. That’s in the article. Oh yeah. Yeah. All right. And this line up here where it says aloe vera gel has been used to help fight cancer. Yeah. I think that’s an accurately stated meaning people will use it as part of their health regimen.
But I we gotta tell you right now, aloe vera does not cure cancer. There is no cure for cancer. Only you can cure cancer in yourself, in your body by strengthening your immune system. So aloe vera gel has been used to help fight cancer with a whole bunch of other things like good rest and good thinking and. All right, let’s pick it up.
Okay. So now on to Rodney. Let me introduce you to Rodney Stockton. Here’s the story that I remember from what Janice and Rodney told me. And by I it’s John. Rodney was originally a chemist in the military. After World War Two, he heads west to Arizona, unaccustomed to the desert sun, he quickly gets a severe sunburn. So Rodney goes to see a Native American healer, as one does when in Arizona.
This healer introduces him to aloe vera gel, which makes quick work of his burns. But Rodney the chemist wants to know more. What other things could it do? What is the best variety? So then I say, aloe vera gel is well known for treating burns and sunburn. All right. We may have a conflict in some of that paragraph above there, because rumor has it he was vacationing in South Florida when he was sunburned.
Homestead and met the Indian man healer that pointed him to aloe. I think I think he lived in Arizona and vacation to Florida. But I cannot verify that. But most accounts of this story that I’ve heard was he was vacationing in Florida. Okay. Which is where he found the aloe. And yes, it definitely grows here very abundantly.
But it grows also in Arizona and Texas. Yeah. And New Mexico, any place is, you know, has arid aloe is kind of like an amazing durability. And in different, environments it does it has some durability. Definitely. I think prefers humidity, though. Yeah. Meaning it’ll survive on its own without hydration. And it does that by consuming itself.
It has a storage of hydration in itself. And over time, the leaves get thin and they start browning as their plants are crying out, saying, I’m thirsty, give me some water. But so they’ll survive in those places. But I believe they like the humidity better. Yeah.
so my take is that, that he found the aloe vera farm in homestead, Florida.
But I don’t know how many Native American healers reside in homestead, Florida. So it’s more likely to run into a Native American healer in Arizona, so. Well, I like John Story better. I hear you, however, let’s go back because we’re talking about approximately 1950. Right. And Florida used to be all underwater, you know, not all underwater, kind of patchy.
And, you know, there were Indians here before we were here. Yeah. And they have largely, you know, they have their reservations kind of in Central Florida now. And I guess, you know, the in the deals that we made with them, they owned the casinos in Florida and that’s their big revenue sources. Even though in the reservations are tend to be very very poor.
But there was definitely Indian representation here in Florida and it will have been a lot more prevalent in that time frame around 1950. Hey, you know, a little side note, one of the historic factors of the indigenous population is Seminole Indians allegedly never surrendered to the US Army. And the reason they were able to do that, because they went into the Everglades and the, and the US Army was like, okay, you can have that one.
We’re not gonna chase you in there. But, they had to discover different ways to live in the swamp. And part of that, I’m sure, was mosquito control. But part of that could have been aloe vera gel for, you know, for all that we know, barbecue gator. Yeah. Quite possibly. And yeah, we were also a very perimeter in Florida.
I’ve been here
in Florida since, the late 70s. And I used to live on, like, the edge of the Everglades. And for fun, we’d go into the Everglades on our, you know, dirt bikes and stuff like that, and pickup trucks driving in the mud and stuff like that. But that line has pushed further and further towards central Florida.
And the Everglades are shrinking as we’re expanding out. You know, point being, as Florida was not that occupied, especially in the 50s when I was here in the 70s, it wasn’t nearly as occupied as it is now. Now it’s just crowded city. What about, isn’t there a big Air Force base and homestead? There is an Air Force, I think it’s and exploratory.
Yeah, it might be Patrick Air Force Base. I just wonder if the homestead is also a military. I don’t know if it’s in homestead or Opa-Locka. Okay. I’m not. I’m not sure. Homestead air. Anyway. I’m speculating. Yeah. Okay. Let’s keep going. One more point. Aloe vera gel is well known for treating burns and sunburn.
Yes. And more recently, not only burns on the outside, but, you know, a burn is like an ulceration and ulcerative colitis. We think of inflamed, burning bowels. So people consume it to heal their bowels. Yeah. True. Heals you from the inside out. And one theory that I mean one idea that stuck with me is that, the skin is an organ and the digestive tract is a continuous, it is continuous with the skin.
So your digestive tract is also the organ of your skin. And what is good for your outside skin is good for your inside skin. And that everything is essential. It’s inside your physical body, but it’s not inside
your, like chemical body. It’s still being, you know, external. Yeah. One, side thought is that when you reference, aloe vera gel on the internet, they’re referencing usually studies that use the whole leaf.
And we know that the external part of the leaf has an Aloin that cause, its a laxative. So most of the studies that were conducted that they were talking about kind of invalidated somewhat the aloe vera gel because, you know, a laxative is good when you’re constipated, but not necessarily is very good when you’re, you know, trying to get optimal health.
And so one of the things that was unique to Rodney and Mike is that you’re just getting that internal, fillet, so to speak, without the external thing. And you have to have a big plant to do that. You know what I mean? You can’t do that with little plants. You got to do with big plants. So
when you’re doing that harvesting in that manner, you know, I don’t know what percentage, but quite a bit of the plant is, is thrown away, because you can only use that inner fillet
And so there was a part of that research that I realized, well, you know, that’s because they’re using the whole leaf and they’re creating a laxative study. You know, in Aloe Vera Gel. Yeah. The one study that I’m familiar with where all the medical doctors have concluded that aloe vera causes cancer. Based on this study, aloe, the aloe vera used in that study was outer leaf only.
Yeah. And this study specifically mentions aloe vera extract. And it was in the timeframe when people were trying to bottle the outer leaf to sell as laxatives. Which kind of upset the the three letter organizations FDA. Yeah. NIH. And you know, now we’re competing with the pharmaceuticals who essentially pays their salaries. So they didn’t like that.
So they developed the study. And when you give rats so much irritant, the cells that make mucus in their intestines are going to have to adapt so they can produce more mucus. And they do that by growing in size. And at some point in time, we’re going to
call that adaptation, that increase in cellular growth at some point in time.
It’s called cancer. It’s the expected outcome when you give an animal so much irritant.
All right, back to our story.
Okay. Now, in the U.S. alone, there are 600 different species of aloe. Of all these, Rodney wanted to find the most efficacious one, the best of the best. And find it. He does one particular variety called Barbadensis Miller
So Rodney starts a company to produce this aloe, leveraging his military connections to get his funding. Remember this at the time, after World War two, during the Cold War, one of the biggest concerns of the military was what to do if there’s a nuclear war? How do you treat radiation burns? So here’s then we have this picture of a guy with a military aloe plant.
Thanks to AI. Okay.
No stranger to Aloe’s burn healing qualities, Rodney manages to convince the military to sign a contract to supply them with the world’s best aloe vera gel. One small problem, the military doesn’t just want a little bit, they want a lot. As in a steady supply of 55 gallon drums. They’re thinking was in case of nuclear war bombing, victims would wash themselves down multiple times a day with buckets of aloe vera gel to heal their radiation burns.
So now Rodney has figure out how to mass produce aloe vera gel.
And then there’s another problem. His customer’s not interested in the whole leaf. It turns out the outer portion of the leaf. Actually, the sap just under the green outer rind contains a compound called Aloin in that is a bit of a laxative. They are only interested in the gel from inside the leaf.
No preservatives, nothing added, just the straight dope pure gel fillet. I’m going to pause there because we were talking about the radiation burns. And Rodney had kept some real solid documentation of radiation burns getting I’m not going to say healed by aloe, but the healing accelerated significantly by aloe and documented accelerating beyond what was expected. So that probably played into getting the contracts that he got with the government as far as you know.
Look, this is what it does for radiation burns. So all right, back to the story.
Okay. This goes on for years and years. The contract is pure gold, you see, because the military insisted on it being preservative free. So after a while, the gel inevitably goes bad. And when that happens, they just order more 55 gallon drums.
I suppose they didn’t have tons of Walk-In Freezers. Or, or inexpensive chest freezers. Okay, now back to the story. So Rodney is selling Aloe Gel like hotcakes until one day somebody in the military decides that nuclear war is not so likely after all. Or at least if it happens, radiation burns will be the least of our problems.
So what does Rodney do with his industrial strength aloe operation? He needs to find a new market. This new market turns out to be terminal cancer patients for whom he develops a protocol.
So I’m calling this,
Going to see the wizard. So now we come back around to my or. That is John’s story about Janice. She tells me I should meet this Rodney Stockton guy if I want to learn about aloe. And I said, well, he sounds really interesting. So I was able to arrange a meeting. When I got there, I found this 91 year old man running around.
I mean, he was hyperactive. He had way more energy than I did. Who was this guy? It was amazing. Here’s a guy running around. And then this is AI’s interpretation of an energy healer. I thought that was pretty funny. Like a hippie in a lab coat.
Okay, so I got Rodney to tell me a story about how he discovered aloe and found the best variety.
And then how he developed his protocol for cancer patients. And I asked him what percentage of patients get better on your protocol. He said 50%. I couldn’t believe it. That seemed impossible. If I hadn’t had the walking proof of Janice, I don’t think I would have believed him.
Let’s pause on that one, okay? Because we are certainly not making any claims. That was what he probably felt was right at the time. I’m not sure he completely calculate that to be accurate. What I will say is when I had taken over this brand, I had my first stage four cancer patient on it. And she did very, very well and is, you know, 15 years later now, still cancer free.
She started out doing nothing but, you know, changing her diet and adding three glasses of aloe a day. And then when she got crazy good results went back to the doctors and they said, wow, where’s all your cancer? Now we can actually help you with surgery. And it was at that point when she was almost, you know, cancer free, that she combined and did the integrative approach, medicine and natural.
So for me, that kind of blew me away. And I started following up on a lot of Rodney’s testimonials, assuming they would be gone, assuming he got the testimonial when they were cancer free. That is not what I found. I found people saying if it wasn’t for that aloe vera, I wouldn’t be alive today. With that said, I’m still not going to say aloe vera cures cancer.
I’m going to say aloe vera can be one of those things that supports your immune system and helps you to fight cancer. And now we actually have some science that explains why it would be a significant benefit. Even a chemotherapy company has determined that their chemotherapy works better when the patients get aloe with the chemotherapy. And the results were like, you know, more than three fold better.
Yeah. So that statistic I don’t know if it’s accurate. I will say I’ve seen some crazy, amazing things and then I’ve seen it not work. And I couldn’t tell you one way or the other. Do more people get well or not? It seems like. Yes. But maybe because I’ve only been here for 15 years and, I don’t know, maybe, you know, maybe some of these people will get cancer again, but it seems like it has to be studied more and we’re doing a disservice not researching this more, but who’s going to pay for it, right.
Yeah. Well, you know, one of the factors, one of the most difficult things in science is to study the human experience because each person is so unique, their belief system placebo, nocebo, their faith in a higher power or their fear factor. And so one of the one of the challenges is that, when, is that you take a human being, you’re acting like it’s a lab rat.
And they’re not, we’re not
we’re
quite unique. And so when I would, talk to different patients with aloe vera gel, I would tell them, you know, you have the power to make this work ten times better than it might in a lab study with rats. Or you can make it not work. That’s how powerful you are.
So what would side you want to be on? What do you want to create? And so that’s part of the experience when you talk about the scientific aspect of testing on human beings, you know, animals are much easier because
we’re assuming they don’t, you know, have, yeah. They’re no, they don’t know like, yeah. Well, that’s a I mean, I’ve seen acupuncture work on dogs.
So a lot of naysayers are like, oh, just the placebo effect. You know, you having this needle stuck in you and and, you know, of course, you’re, you’re because the dog’s telling you, oh, they’re poking me with needles. This has to be good. Yes. Like. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, dogs are like, what that, you know, get that away from me, you know?
And just like they put what they do with dogs, they put they just put one in the in that point that would, you know, and they just What is it John, Ajna Chakra. But yeah. Yeah. They just put one in there and the dog’s like and then they just put all the, all the other needles in and dog’s like oh this is great.
You know I love it. Yeah I was like they put needles in dogs. And the dogs just like love it. Yeah. And I’m like okay there’s got to be something there. Yeah. You know it. Dogs don’t you know they don’t do placebo. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Do try giving dog some dog packaged dog food and then some raw meat, you know.
Yeah they’re going to know the difference. They’re like oh yeah. Like that. You know used to this and you know, yeah, they eat the dog food because they are starving. Yes.
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So what was this, cancer protocol that Rodney came up with? Well, he would have people drink 32oz a day. That’s a whole court. I thought, Holy cow, that’s a lot of aloe. I said, so you’re basically having them pull a Gandhi? What do you mean, pull a Gandhi?
He said. So I tell them about when Mahatma Gandhi was working for peace between the Muslims and Hindus in India post-independence. He fasted on aloe vera gel, and I’m sure he was probably drinking a quart a day right. So, and I again, I got to jump in here from when I knew Rodney, it was three glasses a day, 24oz.
Now, if I had a horrible cancer, would I drink a quart? Probably because of what I’ve seen it do and my understanding and how it works to me it seems like more is better and that’s my take on it. I know John Ortiz there might have another perspective. Right? Well, part of it
is we have to look at the socioeconomic aspect
of the journey that each person is in a different fight.
So what one person calls affordable,
another person says, no, it’s that’s too much. And unfortunately, in our current, health care system, the number one cause of bankruptcy is health care. So part of that decision has to be weighing out, the socioeconomic aspect of the individual. But I would tell people who had the socio economic, you know, abundance, they say, yeah, drink as much as you as you feel, you know, necessary to get the results you’re looking for.
And for those that were financially stressed, I would say, well, you have to drink enough that you don’t feel too financial stress, but you feel like you’re making progress. So yeah, I when I drink aloe, it’s I mean, I, I use that sort of intuitive approach and, you know, if my body likes it, I drink more and my body’s like, yeah, it’s not, you know, it’s like, it’s too much or something.
And
then I, you know, cut back a little bit, but, I mean, when I, when I drink this aloe gel, like, sometimes I’m just like more and more and more, you know, especially, like, if I’m dehydrated or whatever. I trust my body and that for those people that are in tune and understand that intuitive approach, I’m going to agree 100% with that and go with it.
And the good news is there’s been research that shows that it would be beneficial at one ounce a day. And I know of two studies that used one ounce a day, showing a significant improvement. And then there’s understanding of the mechanism that would make sense that more would be better. For instance, if that sugar molecule mannose is so unique that it binds to the cancer cells and they can’t use it for energy, but they can’t release it and it makes it, impossible for them to consume the sugar that they want.
The glucose for instance. Well, it seems that having more of that mannose circulating in the blood would be a better thing. It’ll crowd out the glucose, crowd out. Your desire for glucose so you’ll have more mannose. So you’ll be like, oh, I don’t need sugar. You know I don’t. My blood sugar is fine, you know? So that way you can sort of push it if you’re going for a certain effect.
You know, people would want that intuitive approach combined with that, you know, because, at what point am I having too much? You know, one of the interesting
the, film they made about Gandhi was written by, you know, directed by Attenborough, who is an atheist. And so he was an atheist that was trying to do an interpretation of someone’s life.
So he was really focusing on the things that. But I would have loved to see, you know, Gandhi slamming some aloe vera gel down, saying food of the gods is that really is aloe vera gel. Are you really fasting? It’s a mono diet. I have consumed a lot of aloe. In fact, when I would supervise the production, we would have multiple checkpoints throughout the day.
And at a checkpoint, I would drink a cup of aloe, because that’s what I’m used to drinking in the morning. That’s how I would start my day. So as I’d be at the facility during the harvest, having several checkpoints, maybe eight checkpoints a day, that would have me drinking a half gallon of aloe a day, and I would do that for the week that I was there and everything I there was a laxative property you would know I, I yeah, I did not have the laxative property at all.
I felt great and you know, it was it was a good experience. I didn’t necessarily notice any more benefit than when I have a cup a day. But then at the same time, for the most part, I’m kind of a healthy guy, I think. So how? If you’re not feeling bad, how would you, you know, feel better than feeling great?
Yeah. So. All right, let’s go back.
Okay. So, this is sort of where we leave off from Rodney’s story and to sort of sum it up, I, this is what we’re going to try to do.
I found this app this AI app called Suno, and it, makes songs, sort of mediocre songs, but they’re really, really funny.
They make songs out of, prompts or text that you put in. So I created, some I took this story that I, that we wrote together, and I put it into ChatGPT
and had it write some lyrics. So I took those lyrics and put them into Suno, and had Suno write a song.
So I got, I came up with two that I really like, but we can play one of them perhaps. So because of the way the
lyrics got emphasized, I called the first one fruit of the gods and the second one Drink Deep The gel. And, they’re both sort of a prog rock sound that, Suno, is a little bit limited in genres, and there’s only so much you can do.
I, I’ve struggled with it to get it to do what I wanted, but, these are pretty funny. You don’t have to play the whole thing. I’m going to attempt to play a snippet. And for anyone who wants to hear the whole music, I’ll make sure there’s a link to it in the description.
Okay, I’ll see what happens if I do these This might be bad, but let me try.
Beneath the desert’s fiery glare A healer’s touch, An alchemist’s care Rodney’s quest for Aloe’s might, brought forth a gel of radiant light.
Barbadensis-Miller, a name so rare, from wounded skin to hearts laid bare. Through burns of war and cancer’s fight, this “Food of Gods†turned dark to bright. Frozen jugs in freezer stacked, a Lifeline pure, no health detract. Morning sips, night’s healing balm, a drink of life. Restoring calm
we’re going to need to put the words on the screen for that.
a tale retold, of peace and gel, of
kind of fading off, though, like that.
Yeah, that the audio is not going to be good enough there. It is pretty cool though. Yeah. To to tinny. Yeah. Ever been very out there? Well, well, she can get the audio from the Substack, but I can also send the audio file to you guys. Yes. And the lyrics. Yeah, absolutely. And the music video, that’ll be fun to make this.
You’re getting there right now. Starring Mike, John and John. Yeah. Oh. That’s good. This is good. That was fun. We’ll work on it. Okay. And there is a survey. Oh, yeah. About the songs. Yes, because we have different versions now. The reason there’s no votes is because I added this in recently, and other people who read the article already read it.
So, okay. And well, you know, the first one and I well, let me go back here. I’m going to I’m going for the I didn’t hear the other one yet, but I’m going to go with the first option because that’s my kind of music. But no, you’re both that type of music. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.
It’s that 1970s prog rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stadium that, you know, drink deep. The gel, my friend, I like it. And I see that people can
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Do you have a link in here somewhere to order aloe? Yeah that’s that. it’s at the bottom. Yeah. At the end of the article okay. We will have aloe sometime in March and that’s coming up. Like I could put like links everywhere in the article like order. Now back now. Yeah. Now how much would you pay. You know I’m much.
Yeah. Standing by. Yeah. We price gouging when, when we have our limited supply. Right. We didn’t do that at all. We could have, but we did not at all. We try to get it to as many people as we could because people are relying on us. And it’s a horrible thing running out first time in 15 years.
But yeah. So what do we got here? What’s first experiments. Okay. So speaking as John again. So I’m almost sold on this aloe thing. But first I need to do an experiment on my own. I buy a five gallon bucket containing four gallons of frozen gel. I have to thaw it out, put it into smaller bottles, and then refreeze it because without preservatives, the shelf life is limited.
Now I have both my refrigerator and my freezer chock full of aloe vera gel. Working with my clients, friends, and family, we found ourselves chasing every kind of gut issue you can think of, from diarrhea to constipation to irritable bowel syndrome. We were improving all of these conditions back then. We didn’t know about the microbiome. We didn’t even know why the aloe worked.
We just called it the food of the gods. Unbeknownst to us, it turns out a number of different civilizations referred to aloe that way we were consuming vast quantities of the stuff. Well, maybe not military, great quantities, but still it wasn’t cheap. So I went back to Rodney and I asked him, suppose you’re not a terminal cancer case?
What’s the minimum daily dose one should take? He said, well, if your goal is general wellness, we recommend eight ounces a day or one quarter of the Cancer or Ghandi protocol. So part of me
is a minimalist and the minimalist or cheapskate. That’s my note So I’ll accept that now. So the minimalist in me says eight ounces.
I wonder if you could do it with less if you figured out how to consume it in the most efficient way. So I immediately cut it in half to four ounces a day, but taken in divided doses of two ounces first thing in the morning and two ounces at night before bed on an empty stomach. This makes a lot of sense to me.
It makes a lot of sense to me. Spreading it out. You’ll probably make better use of it. Have we proven it with science? No. But it does seem to make sense. And there’s a certain value that, Because, you know, each person eating, taking the aloe had a different experience, and I would have a couple that I would, show the aloe vera gel and one person would say, it tastes like water.
And the other person said, it’s the bitter, slimy thing I’ve ever tasted in my life. And they’d have this argument of
how aloe vera gel tasted so each person was unique. And, part of that is once you realize the medicinal, have you the therapeutic aspect, then I guarantee you one thing, it’s tastes better. You know, when you when you really start believing in what it’s doing for you, it starts improving, improving, improving.
I think it tastes like water. Personally, my son does too. We just drink it like, well, okay. But well, I think that, you know, that’s my kale. Like if you think it’s good for you, you’re like you’re start to love eating it. Yeah. If you think it’s rabbit food then it’s just not going to work for you.
Yeah. We used to do trade shows and we would introduce the aloe to people and we’d have a bottle, and I’d always give it a shake and I’d pour some out in front of the person, and they drink it and some people would go, oh, this is so bitter from the same bottle, because our bottles, one bottle to the other can be different, but from the same bottle that I shook up.
So it’s all well dispersed. That next person goes, you know, how could I drink this? Next person goes this, that, this tastes like water. Yeah. You know, and it’s all. It’s all where your palate is. And you can shift it really easily. So if you eat sugar, you shift towards the sweet and everything. Everything healthy tastes bitter. If you cut out sugar and you start eating more bitter foods, gradually bitter stuff tastes fine.
All of a sudden you’re drinking black coffee and
eating kale, and then you have something sweet and it’s like, oh, that’s terrible. It’s so sweet.
I learned this as a kid when, I was at summer camp, and there was a kid there from England for Britain, and he. His mom shipped him some British M&Ms.
And so we all tried one. And it was like, where’s the sweetness? It’s where’s the sugar? There’s like, they don’t put enough sugar in the British M&Ms because their palate is it’s all totally different. You know, there’s some bitter beer, you know, they got the bitter beer. We’ve got the sweet beer, you know, it’s like it’s a whole different palette.
And you can shift your palate. You just have to be diligent about it. And it’s. I’ve done it before. I’ve shifted all the way to the bitter, all the way back to the sweet. Oh, and back and forth. But, you know, interestingly enough, in Ayurveda, you know, there was the six different tastes. And they would say to be optimally healthy, you would have to take those tastes and tastes each one every day in kind of an ideal state.
So there was a a benefit of tasting bitter or sour or astringent or sweet. It balances herself. Yeah. And so yeah. And so but what’s interesting in current people, when people take a capsule and they swallow it and they don’t taste it
in traditional, Ayurveda, that was not the ideal scenario, that you would put each one in your mouth and you would taste each particular taste and once you’re feeling the health, the benefits of what you’re doing, then everything starts tasting better because then you realize, okay, if I have to learn to enjoy bitter or sour or stringent, you know, it’s the price you pay.
That’s how you know, Triphala works is it tastes horrible. Yeah. It goes for a while until you sort of get used to, you know, get to a certain point where it doesn’t taste that bad anymore. Just that’s why I want people to also be connected to how they feel. Yeah. For instance, if you’re playing sports and you eat inflammatory foods and you actually realize, you know, I’m sore when I eat ice cream, but when I’m eating vegetables, I’m not.
You start liking the vegetables and disliking the ice cream that makes you inflamed and in pain. Yeah. So, you know, when I eat this food, I crash. But when I eat this food, I have good energy and clear thinking. Well, don’t you start favoring those foods. You know, every time you eat this, you know you’re going to crash and pass out.
And aren’t you planning on doing this later today? You sure you want to eat that now? Yeah, yeah. And you start preferring the foods that make you feel good. So I want to thank my my son. He’s on the autistic spectrum, but he’s high functioning, and, he quickly put together the idea that if you drink more aloe vera gel, he could eat anything else.
It wouldn’t have an ill effect on him. And so he would say, you see me felt like he was coming down with something. He’d pound a bunch of Aloe Vera gel, and then he’d start saying, hey, this stuff, you know, forgives all sins, so to speak, about everything you want to eat. I said, well, that’s not really the goal, but it’s the antidote.
We have a problem. Yeah. And I had a similar experience with a friend of mine who I met for the Los Angeles. He said he had, lactose intolerance. And he said drinking the aloe vera gel, he was able to reintroduce the dairy products. And I think, you know, I think that’s the best message that you’re trying to.
But, you know, in their case,
it was a way to do the things they wanted to do, not have to pay the full price. It’s the antidote to pizza.
I’ve heard it’s the antidote to too much alcohol. Joan used to say that not only did it, you know, prevent hangovers, but it, It would sober people up. Interesting. I don’t know if that’s the case. I’ve never tried that. You know, if I’m drinking, I don’t want to be sober. There’s a reason I’m drinking, right? I mean, maybe if the bitter flavor, maybe it’s, like, so bitter.
And I got.
All right. Okay. Or maybe it’s the mannose that blocks the, effect of the alcohol sugars. Yeah. Interesting. Okay,
So after a few years of our experimentation, Aloe starts showing up everywhere. Every health food store has it, grocery stores have it, you can get it online. Everyone’s got it right.
So I started thinking, well, you know, this fancy Aloe costs a lot and ties up my freezer and refrigerator and maybe these other products, you know, they usually use a preservative, usually citric acid or something like that, I said, but I’m not applying it on my skin for burns, so a little citric acid won’t hurt. So here’s a, you know, picture of aloe vera in the store.
And that that is true. There’s like, you know,
it’s easy. It’s convenient. So anyway, so now can I, can I jump in on this. Of course. Yeah. And, help me with this one, John, because I think we’re going to be on the same page. Yeah. Fruits and vegetables have naturally occurring enzymes, and an enzyme digests an enzyme, breaks down molecules.
And in the case of aloe vera, after a period of time, it is going to shake and splash like water as the enzymes. Why don’t you turn it into a drink? The enzymes are kind of released. They’re going to work breaking down the Mucopolysaccharides, a polysaccharide, many sugars, polysaccharide many sugars. Aloe is many sugars. The mannose sugar molecule.
Yeah. Not the glucose sugar. That’s important. So the enzymes are breaking down this very complex molecule into a bunch of simple sugars. The only thing we know of that will not even stop it, but slow it down significantly is freezing it. In fact I’ve froze aloe that was very very thick. And six months later, after being frozen I saw the bottle out and it’s a lot more drinkable.
It’s not as thick. I have aloe that was so thick when I first made it, blended it up from my backyard that there’s a TikTok video of me drinking a glass of aloe without using my hands. I started with a full glass of aloe, started sucking it from the top all the way down to the bottom of the glass till it was gone.
It was that thick, but I wasn’t able to do that after it was frozen for about six months. It was still very thick. A lot of the Mucopolysaccharides intact, but after a period of time it’s going to splash like water. That’s why the other brands that sell aloe vera gel, they sell it as a gel. When you look at the ingredients you’ll see something such as carrageenan added as a thickening agent trying to mimic that gel again.
Now, I’ve often said, this isn’t the first time I’m saying this, and you may have heard it before. Aloe vera is like intimacy. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.
I’m not going to take away from the store brands that are on the shelves. there, It’s not that they aren’t good for you. Yeah. And sometimes, if that’s all that’s available, maybe that is better than nothing. But there’s no way that it can compare to what’s in the plant, the Mucopolysaccharides. And we, as far as I know, are the only brand that still has Mucopolysaccharides
Yeah, that is the word of the day, Mucopolysaccharides. And I wish I had put that into
the lyrics of the song. See where it comes out. But a little bit about food science. Guy named Bird Song.
he basically developed the ability to
flash freeze food and, you know, growing up, I thought, oh, that’s not good.
You know, it’s frozen stuff like that. But in essence, it was actually better because he could take a
fruit, let it get to ripen, state flash freeze it. And so when you were eating it, you weren’t eating something that was green, that kind of ripened unnaturally. You were eating the ripe fruit. So, in other words, there was when you flash freeze something, you kind of you slow down the thing, but you actually freeze it in that state and so one of the things I tell my clients is that you want to keep it as cold as you can, as long as you can even do in a partial thaw because first of all,
the taste will change a little bit, as it sits in the refrigerator. But there’s a, the component of freezing something keeps it in. It’s in that state for as long as you can. And that’s what really was unique.
my experiment with other aloes, first of all,
I would look at that like they put the thickening agent.
I said, oh, diluting it or something of that nature. But, but you’ll hear the next part of the story. Good friend of ours, Gary. But I’ll let, Jonathan come in. So, wait, so this guy, the flash freezing guy is named birdsong. Not bird’s eye. A bird’s eye. That was.
I thought I might, it’s a isn’t that the company that that. Yeah, I think it’s bird’s eye. Okay, now, he got he got that straightened out. Yeah, we got a bird’s. It was bird. So this Native American, guy is. Hey, you know, we. Yeah, I think if we flash freeze this Mr. Bird’s eye. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
You. Do you want to say anything about the way you freeze the aloe Mike or. Yeah. Well, we try to get it as cold as fast as we can. And this is something that actually I added, after our first harvest, because when I had taken over, we were under the gun to get aloe. There were literally seven buckets of aloe left, and that first day, someone came in to buy one of those buckets.
And I knew they were going to be gone in just a couple days. Within a week, we had a new container from the Dominican Republic and well, maybe it was ten days or so, but it arrived and it wasn’t frozen yet. It was cold, but it wasn’t frozen. And because they were putting all of this aloe in a freezer all at the same time, you know, when you add things that are not cold into a freezer, you’re supposed to do like maybe 15% of the freezer space at the max.
But they were filling this thing up, and essentially it was like adding a heater into the freezer. Right. So it couldn’t get cold fast enough. We added a chiller and a heat transfer unit, which is essentially a heat transfer unit is like 110ft of stainless steel piping that the aloe goes through. And it’s going back and forth in a canister that has cold liquid circulating on the outside of the pipe.
So the aloe is inside the pipe, cold liquid on the outside of the pipe in a canister to contain it. So the aloe goes in one end at the field temperature, which might be 90 degrees, and it comes out the other end at 50 degrees. And so the containers that go into the freezer. So we’re able to get it, near freezing as it’s going into the container.
And now the freezer is not struggling like filling it up with 90 degree field temperature. Yeah. So problem solved. There you go.
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all right Who’s Gary? Yeah I knew Gary. Yeah. Okay. So I reluctantly switch over to the abundant commercial aloe. 17 years go by and aloe is the last thing on my mind. Then one day my client and good friend Gary came in complaining of stubborn IBS.
Some days it’s better, some days worse, but it never goes away completely. I told him to just pick up some aloe vera gel at the health food store. Just, just make sure it doesn’t have any preservatives in it.
Also,
Gary had irritable bowel syndrome. That’s IBS. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, I added, try not to get one that contains a thickening agent. A lot of aloe vera gel wasn’t pure or full strength. They would filter out the fibrous elements which we now know. Are mucopolysaccharides
Yep. Making a watery substance. And then they would add a thickener to turn it back into the gel that people were expecting. Oh, here’s John again. Oh, and one more thing. Don’t get a whole leaf preparation, because the outer portion of the leaf contains aloin, which is a laxative. This issue with whole leaf versus just the gel is what makes some of the aloe information online questionable validity.
You see, they don’t always control for the aloin and so they conclude that aloe is a laxative. So you hear that it is great for constipation but otherwise not advisable. Okay. Suffice it to say, all these caveats and warnings weren’t making Gary very happy. Instead of a solution, I was just giving him more problems to solve.
So Gary threw down the gantlet. What is the absolute best aloe gel on the market? A long, dim light bulb came back to life in my brain. I couldn’t believe he asked that question because a long time ago there was this company called Aloe 1 I was sure it no longer existed. And Rodney had long since made his transition.
Unless, of course, he managed to become immortal on aloe, but there was no way that his aloe product was still available on the market. I think Gary surprised me. Let’s look it up. So we looked it up online and found out that a chiropractor by the name of Michael Haley had taken over Rodney’s Aloe business and had some for sale.
I think I went to order some, Gary said. And I said, well, shoot, if you’re going to order some, I guess I’ll order some too. So we start looking at the product. The cheapest option was to buy one five gallon tub, which is four gallons of aloe, but I knew that it would be too labor intensive.
to thaw and split up.
So we settled on the half gallon jugs, which is 58oz of aloe. Gary says, okay,
How many are you going to order? They had a deal where if you order two, you got a certain price, and if you ordered four, you got a better price. And if you ordered eight, you got the best price.
I said, oh, we have to order eight because it’s like a fine wine, and I don’t want to spend more than I have to. So I actually was around I remember all this happening, so I was actually there. Okay, so we placed the order for eight jugs. No idea how it’s going to actually show up, because by this time we’re living in the San Francisco Bay area all the way on the West coast.
But the next day, Gary called me up and said, you know, I really don’t need four jugs. And I said, yeah, I realize that. I’ll take whatever you don’t want. You want two or just one? And then I’m joking and said, if you want zero jugs, I’ll take all eight. Well, the next day, Gary called me up and said he had reevaluated his finances and decided he would take me up on my offer and not order any jugs and let me have all eight.
He would just try a little sample from my stash. Now I’m thinking, what just happened here? I said to myself, oh my God, Holy spirit has just put me back in the aloe business because if this guy hadn’t walked in and asked for the best aloe in the world, I wouldn’t have thought about it. And if he hadn’t said he wanted to order some, I wouldn’t have ordered it.
And then he backs out of the order, leaving me with a total of 3.6 gallons of frozen aloe gel in transit. Yeah, yeah. That’s great. Yeah.
this is fate. Yeah. This. Yes. And yes, we have price breaks when you buy more bottles. Why is there only 58oz and a half gallon?
Because when it’s frozen, it takes up more space. Yeah. Why is there only four gallons in a five gallon bucket? Because when it’s frozen, it takes up more space. And that space, it’s the size of five gallons. When four gallons is frozen. All right, now here’s there here’s the fun part. You got to you’re going to have to break it to the wife.
Yeah yeah. That’s.
Right. Okay. Back in the bed. So I call my wife, who had been part of the original aloe experiment back in Florida all those years ago.
Okay, so here goes the conversation. Hey, honey, guess what? I ordered some aloe vera. The phone goes dead quiet because she is waiting for the other shoe to drop. What do you need?
Well, I, need the freezer for a couple of days. Absolutely not. She was unwilling to once again donate the household freezer to the aloe cause, but she was willing to fund the purchase of a chest freezer. The kind hunters used to store a whole carcass of game meat. Turned out to be one of the best investments I’ve ever made.
Instead of playing Tetris in your little freezer compartment, you just throw everything in there and it never seems to fill up. So the eight chunks of aloe gel come in and I put them in my new chest freezer. Now I meditate and ask for spiritual guidance because I have no idea how to sell this aloe. And what came to me was I would thaw out one jug and then split it into smaller 8 or 16 ounce bottles and let people buy smaller quantities more frequently.
People like Gary. But in my quest for the ultimate aloe experience, I also wanted to avoid plastic, glass is Far superior, but not when freezing is concerned. See, when you freeze aloe, it expands even more than water. So refreezing aloe in a glass container is problematic because the glass can break and not just crack, but shatter all over your freezer.
So I gave up on that idea and sold smaller amounts of aloe already thawed. Or else the whole, jug in a frozen state. Turns out my clients loved it. They said things like, oh, this is great stuff. I feel amazing when I take it. Their excitement was contagious, and within a week I had sold all eight jugs of this aloe gel.
I was surprised it sold that quickly. Then the question started. When you’re ordering more. I hadn’t planned on it, so I replied, I wasn’t going to. They shot back, you can’t hook us up with the good stuff and then cut us off. And I thought, what if I become some sort of drug dealer only for health food?
So I ordered another eight jugs this time, everyone who bought smaller bottles upgraded to the full half gallon size. Those eight bottles were gone in three days. In just ten days, I had sold 16 bottles of aloe gels with my clients, friends and family. That’s when I thought that maybe I had stumbled upon a side business. So I called Mike Haley, the aloe slinging chiropractor, to introduce myself.
He was surprised to hear from me because I was, in his words, old school. I mentioned that I knew Rodney from 17 years back and told him the story out of morbid and scientific curiosity. I asked Mike what happened to Rodney. He said Rodney had been working late one night, tripped, hit his head and passed away from a cerebral hemorrhage.
And we have a comment now. It said he had a heart attack. So there’s a little bit of debate over this, but this is what John remembers. So this is John’s story, and he’s sticking to it. Okay, so so I responded, no, I don’t think so. I think Rodney’s guardian angel was chasing him for 96 years, finally caught up and said, we’re done.
We’re going home. Then he tripped him. I made a picture of that. Anyway, so I asked, Mike Haley about getting wholesale pricing. Mike explained that he only offered wholesale prices. Someone with a clinic and a freezer on site. I told them, well, I’ve got a little healing center here in the Bay area. What’s funny is that when you say Bay area, people have different interpretations in the northeast, they think of Boston.
In Florida, it’s Tampa Bay, but in California, it’s San Francisco Bay area. When I told Mike, he got excited, oh, we don’t have anyone in Tampa Bay. But I clarify that was in California. There was a pause, and then Mike said, California, we sell more aloe gel in California than in any other state. That didn’t surprise me. California is home to 1 in 8 Americans.
People here tend to be health conscious, so it made sense that aloe gel would sell well. Mike told me to look at the map and sure enough, there I was, one of the few aloe gel dealers on the West Coast. That’s how I got into the Aloe Gel business. Over time, it grew. People from San Francisco and beyond came to me to buy aloe gel.
The business connected me with people who wanted to discuss healing, health and wellness. It also gave me a chance
to refine my knowledge how aloe gel works, why it works, and how to use it more effectively. To this day, I don’t think I found any substance more healing to the gut than aloe vera gel. Yeah, many scientists believe 60 to 90% of your immune system resides in your gut.
Healing the gut, to me, is the key to healing the immune system. I take aloe vera gel daily and my son would drink it like water, he said. The more I drink, the better I feel. I don’t get sick when I drink this stuff.
And now there is no aloe. We drink it all, no aloe. The Californians drink all the out. It’s a
we’re building up an appreciation. It’s like. It’s like the calm before the storm. So,
I think it’s good for everybody to go off things occasionally, you know, just to see what you’re at with it.
And without it. And that, the reboot that you’re experiencing will hopefully lead to more aloe vera gel production. So it’s not just getting to back to status quo, it’s getting back to the point where you can actually get more aloe vera gel. And that because I was always concerned if people who are, battling health issues really found out the effectiveness of aloe vera gel, would production be able to handle the demand.
And so that was one of my concerns over the last couple of years. And now that’s being resolved by a force change. So, you know, there’s a part where, you know, you know, and Paul says in Romans 828 he says, and we know all things work for good for those of the called according to his purpose.
For as many as he foreknew to them, he gave power to become the sons and daughters of God. And so what you say is, whatever you’re going through, it’s good. You got to see the silver lining of
the things that are going on that are going to allow you to get to a different level of, you know, success.
But if your recommendation goes viral on social media and you can’t get yours, then is that the right thing to do? You got to make sure you’ve got your supply first before you start recommending it. My wife and I are rebooting in a different way. Okay. We actually do. I even dare say we’re switching farmers and I think one of the reasons he retired is because we had a batch that wasn’t acceptable.
And the bacteria counts were too high. So my wife and I are drinking this stuff that we can’t sell. I can’t sell it with a good conscience. Yeah, we call that probiotics. Yeah, yeah. Oh, call it probiotic aloe.
You know which bacteria? Yeah, yeah. Here’s the interesting thing about bacteria is that it grows in Antarctic ice, the coldest place on Earth, and it grows on the walls of volcanoes. So bacteria grows everywhere. And, so freezing doesn’t stop that. Freezing doesn’t kill it. It doesn’t. It slows it down. That’s slow down. Yeah, yeah.
and you know, here’s the thing.
Now we’re all into probiotics. What are probiotics. Bacteria. You know,
So growing up we always said bacteria was bad. That was just like okay we have to get it in you know and theory. Yeah germ theory. And so one of the things now we’re appreciating is there’s good bacteria and there’s bad bacteria.
So one of the diagnosis dysbiosis was a disproportionate amount of bad bacteria to good bacteria. But I read in one of the books that 99% of the bacteria is good. And I figured 99% of bacteria, you know, if you had a planet and you had 99% of the humans that were good and 1% that was bad, you know what you’d call it?
You’d call it heaven. You’d say that, got that one seed. So what that what? That 1%. Is it weaponized?
So I, I know that this is a reboot the age of Aloe like
we’re finding ourselves in a kind of an uncomfortable time, but it’s also a time of major health transitions, health care transitions in this country. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, for us, we see it being a really good thing for us.
We’re going through a challenge. And I already see it working out for the good and us coming out stronger with an even better product. So patience and soon we will be supplying the United States with the world’s best aloe vera again. Yeah. One of the one of my goals is to tell this story and have it in every alternative, cancer treatment place,
just to spread that news, from that aspect of the legacy of, Rodney Stockton in my personal journey at endeavor, but also just to realize that it should be on everybody’s radar, you know, and, I don’t think
there’s. Yeah, I used to have this argument with a physician I work with that, you know,
She thought aloe vera was cooling, so it would be good for certain of the doshas. But my point is, I consider it ttri-dosha because it is good for all of the doshas.
Because it’s. It starts and ends with gut health. But what kind of aloe? Right. You what preparation of Aloe? What right. What species of aloe was that based on? You know, because I remember learning that aloe vera was really cooling and it’s, you know, it’s if you’re if you need digestive fire, it’s like the opposite of what you need.
But I, I don’t experience that.
I don’t drink a bunch of aloe before I’m about to eat a steak or something. Yeah, it doesn’t make sense because it’s cold and cooling, you know. But, I don’t think it’s gonna, you know, upset my dosha. I upset the dosha cart. I think you should do a, videotape of, a semi frozen 55 gallon drum of aloe, and you’re doing the submersion in the Aloe that the Aloe a bucket challenge?
Yeah, yeah. You know, it’s funny because, Well, you know, today’s the day we shut our freezer off, and the only thing that is in there is aloe that we have to get rid of, because it’s part of the batch that didn’t pass. So I could do that. I have to get rid of a whole bunch of it.
I, I’ve got, you know, a pallet of buckets in there that has to go. Got to take a bath. I say, yeah, got to take a bath, as I say financially. So yeah. Let me see. That’s But what time is 36? We got, 144 gallons of aloe. My chest freezer will probably hold about 50 gallons. Yeah, that could be a good ice bath, but you want to.
Drink it afterwards. You not going to throw away the Aloe gel, I just, you know. No, it’s just a cold plunge. It’s the aloe plunge. Yeah, yeah. And if you came up with the fountain of Youth, you’d have something like, hey, that’s what maybe that’s what Ponce de Leon was looking for in Florida, right? Yeah. Nice plunge in aloe. I love the whole new, whole new meaning to the word ice plunge.
Yeah, but. Yeah, but you get the report what does it feel like to take a bath in Aloe. Yeah, yeah. Slippery. Yeah, well. Watch out. Getting out of the tub.
Well, what do we got here? As we’re wrapping things up, what’s aloe and triad is there. Let me see it. I’m. I’m going to see how much we got here. Oh, okay. That’s it. Yeah. All right. Aloe and the triad. So, as a minimalist cheapskate. Cheapskate. Yeah. I want to use
the least amount for the maximum benefit that philosophy is part of what I call triad healing.
It focuses on three aspects physical healing, emotional healing or mental emotional healing.
and spiritual karmic healing. Triad healing also emphasizes three principles safety, effectiveness, and affordability. The first two were,
no brainers. Affordability, though, meant different things to different people. To make aloe gel affordable, I aim to use it efficiently. I joke with my wife if I die prematurely, put this on my epitaph.
He should have drunk a little more aloe vera gel because he was being too cheap. Trying to get away with less and if just a little bit more. Yeah, from my experience, the best way to use Aloe Gel is what I call the Gandhi method. SIP it throughout the day, especially on an empty stomach. Well, John doesn’t eat anything all day, so that works for him.
So basically, you have to fast. Are they okay? The two most important times to take it are one in the morning after oral hygiene, to set your digestion in motion. Or as oral hygiene, just, you know. Yeah. Aloe pulling. Maybe we should try that. Yeah. Aloe pulling. Aloe pulling. Why not? Yeah. Okay. Because that, you know, the, the mannose could crowd out, you know, I don’t know, sugar, and.
Oh, only in pulling, you usually spit it out in this one you’re going to swallow. So it’s kind of like a the swish before you swallow. Yeah, but my theory was that when you were doing the coconut oil or anything, you just swallow.
you don’t, you don’t spit it out because okay, get rid of that bacteria.
Yeah. But even then your stomach’s ready. You know it. Yeah. The stomach is a firewall. That’s what it was designed as to kill 99% of the bacteria. That’s right. So if you’re
optimal, digestion. Remember, we had that term cast iron stomach growing up. Yeah. And what it meant was you could eat anything and it wouldn’t affect you adversely.
And now, if you ask millennials what is a cast iron stomach, they don’t even they look at you like, what is a cast iron? stomach, is your stomachs iron. And they said, no, I meant you could you could eat anything. And I think one of the goals in terms of a proper digestion system is you do start developing that firewall and you start developing a cast iron stomach.
So, so here’s where we talk about the unique palate. Everyone has some people think it tastes like water. Other finds, other people find it bitter or slimy. I once worked with a cancer patient who struggles to drink eight ounces a day.
I pushed her perhaps too hard by asking, would you rather die than drink aloe vera gel? She paused and said, let me think about that. If it’s a cost benefit analysis for her, for those who struggle with the taste, chefs I know have developed formulas to make it more palatable. However, in its purest form, without thickening agents or preservatives, Aloe gel is most effective on an empty stomach.
It also pairs well with intermittent fasting to quickly reboot the gut.
to this day I’ll probably go to my grave drinking aloe gel. Maybe not enough, maybe too much, who knows? But one thing is clear physical health is invaluable. If you lose your health, it doesn’t matter how much money you have. This reminds me of a, an historical story.
Alexander the Great one sought to conquer the world. His teacher, Aristotle, told him, first, go to the island of Socotra and conquer it. That’s where the aloe vera is. Alexander did just that because he knew more soldiers died from infected wounds than from battle. They used aloe vera gel to treat injuries, preventing infection and saving countless lives. To me, aloe vera gel remains a magical substance, whether used topically or internally, avoiding the whole leaf due to its laxative properties.
It’s been a life changing tool for healing. For those looking for a pure, unadulterated aloe gel, it’s worth the investment, because health, after all, is priceless. We have a little survey survey on, what people think about what readers think about Aloe. We have a link to a book called The Everything Guide to Aloe Vera for Health by Britt Brandon.
We also have a, a way, if you’re in the Bay area, you can purchase Stockton Aloe one locally and just email John Ortiz for that. And
if you want to order in bulk or, if you’re not in the Bay area and you can’t find it, through one of the registered dealers on the website, you can order it directly from Haley Nutrition when it’s back in stock, and you get a special bonus offer.
So here’s a link here. And, that’s it for our aloe story. Aloe story? That was our first article. And we have more. Yeah. On the site. Very nice. And to the people that don’t know what the cast iron stomach is, they won’t know what this is either. A lot of people have said raw aloe gel tastes like drinking water out of a garden hose.
The young kids have never drank out of a garden hose. They don’t do that anymore. Us growing up in the 70s? Who hasn’t drunk and out of a garden hose? Yeah, it’s what you did. Yeah. You’re outside playing with your friends and you were thirsty. Ran to the hose on the side of the house, cranked it up and.
Yeah, the water has changed. I wouldn’t recommend drinking out of a garden hose these days. I agree with that.
Yeah,
well,
I enjoyed the, historical review and, and your story, John, that was very, very cool. And the narration by Jonathan. Yeah.
Awesome, awesome. And the excellent aloe vera music, which I, make sure there’s links to those songs, too.
Yeah. So people can jam out to
the aloe vera jam. The only time barbadensis miller has ever been in the song, probably. And the only time Rodney was ever mentioned in a song, I’m sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah, it is. Until next time. Sounds good.
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