In our quest to build energy efficient homes and live a more natural life, many of us fail to realize the amount of chemicals we take into our bodies every day, often from the most surprising sources.
In today’s episode of The Dr. Haley Show, Dr. Haley chats with Tim James, founder of ChemicalFreeBody.com and host of the Health Hero Show podcast. His passion for living a chemical-free life and encouraging others to do the same has been his focus for the past several years.
You’ll learn about the problems found within our sealed, energy-efficient homes.
You’ll discover steps to ensure the air you breathe and the water you drink is the best quality it can be.
You’ll also learn why Tim believes that we don’t live in nature, we ARE nature.
Join Dr. Haley and Tim for this fascinating discussion.
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Tim discusses his Health Hero Show podcast, coaching community, and Core Four Secrets ebook through Chemical Free Body. In this recorded interview, he offers the discount code DRHALEY; check his website for current availability and terms.
Quick Takeaway
Tim James encourages listeners to look at everyday habits and surroundings, including indoor air, drinking water, food choices, and sleep. He shares how his own health journey shaped his approach to Chemical Free Body.
His “core four” centers on drinking water, chewing food thoroughly, avoiding liquids with meals, and using breath work before eating. These are Tim’s recommendations, and his accounts of detoxification, supplements, and health improvements reflect his personal experiences and opinions.
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Episode Timestamps
- 00:09 — Meet Tim James and the Health Hero Show
- 01:59 — How Chemical Free Body got its name
- 05:30 — Indoor air and energy-efficient homes
- 06:30 — Tim’s air-purifier preferences
- 10:06 — Toothpaste and personal-care products
- 12:48 — Water quality and reconnecting with nature
- 20:50 — Tim’s views on detoxification and saunas
- 24:09 — Detox cautions and starting small
- 25:42 — The core four habits
- 28:16 — Plant nutrition, green juices, and greens powders
- 37:28 — Greens powders versus capsules
- 39:32 — Phytonutrients and dietary variety
- 46:20 — Making greens powders easier to use
- 47:27 — Chemical Free Body resources and the episode discount
- 51:29 — Tim’s bedtime and morning routines
- 55:27 — Different health beliefs and finding common ground
- 58:32 — Closing conversation
What You Will Learn In This Show
- Get a discount on the “Chemical Fee Body” (discount code revealed on the Podcast)
- The problems with our sealed, energy-efficient homes
- Steps to ensure the air you breathe is the best quality it can be
- Why Tim believes that we don’t live in nature, we ARE nature
- Four Core Secrets: drink water, chew food, avoid liquids with meals, do breath work
- And so much more
Indoor Air, Water, and Everyday Exposure
Tim discusses ventilation in tightly sealed homes, materials that can release compounds into indoor air, and his personal approach to air filtration. The conversation also covers drinking-water filtration, personal-care products, and how he evaluates the products he brings into his daily life.
Tim’s Core Four Secrets
Tim describes four habits that form the foundation of his coaching approach: drinking water, chewing food thoroughly, avoiding liquids with meals, and practicing breath work before eating. He favors starting with small changes rather than trying to overhaul every habit at once.
Green Juices, Greens Powders, and Capsules
Tim explains how growing sprouts and making green juices led him to develop a greens powder for times when fresh juice was inconvenient. Dr. Haley and Tim compare powders with capsules and discuss taste, consistency, dietary variety, and ways people might fit plant foods into their routines.
Detoxification: Personal Experiences and Cautions
Tim shares his experiences with water systems, supplements, and saunas, including claims about detoxification and disease. These accounts are presented as his experiences and opinions. Dr. Haley raises concerns that detoxification programs can be uncomfortable or dangerous, and Tim discusses medical supervision for water fasting and beginning with smaller changes.
Sleep, Daily Routines, and Common Ground
Tim describes a bedtime routine, consistent sleep hours, reading, guitar practice, yoga, meditation, and his morning beverages. The closing discussion turns to differences in health beliefs and his desire to approach other people with empathy and find common ground.
Medical Disclaimer
This podcast and article are provided for educational and informational purposes only and do not constitute medical advice. The experiences and opinions discussed are those of the speakers and should not replace diagnosis or treatment from a qualified healthcare professional. Do not begin, discontinue, or change any medication, supplement, diet, or treatment based solely on this episode.
Full Transcript
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[Music] tim james thank you for being on my show
michael thank you for having me on your show
you are the chemical free guy also known as the health hero tell me more
that’s what they tell me i love chemical free it’s what we’re all about for so many reasons
and we’ve already talked before and i have to say you know before just to get the ball rolling i have to tell you anytime i talk with healthcare professionals influencers people that really get into natural health i never agree with anyone 100 percent but you and i had spoken for probably a good hour already and i i found very little and well you had to correct me on one thing we’ll get into that later but one thing that maybe we weren’t 100 percent on because i wasn’t 100 and i i learned something from you that made a whole lot of sense just change my perspective that’s going to be the teaser we’ll get to that later
that’s awesome man that’s awesome i love it when i can change my beliefs and i can see something differently than i saw it before and it’s just a an openness and a pattern of growth that i didn’t have when i was you know the the red redneck kid from eastern oregon growing up in societal conditioning and parental conditioning and being able to break through that stuff is is huge it’s really
oh yeah i always have to have an open mind be willing to grow we don’t know it all and we’re evolving in our knowledge our understanding so hopefully people that are tuning into our shows i say our shows you have the health hero show hopefully we’re accelerating uh their growth and helping them to learn more faster than it took us
absolutely yeah we can condense the time time frame for them that’s awesome i love doing that
chemical free how did you stumble on that name
well it was um originally um you know i wanted to be like you know super nature and stuff like that and my company was actually called primalfit.tv and we were a marketing educational company and then um i got a cease and desist letter from um there’s another mark system i don’t know if you know he has a primal company and they said you have similar products you have probiotics you have enzymes and stuff like that and you need assistance assistant send us all your products and and i went and talked to my attorney and he says um he says look you you have a 90 chance you’re going to win this but it’s going to cost you a hundred thousand dollars and i said i’m going to change my name
so i thought about it and four hours later i went with chemical free body and the reason i went with it was number one um one of the most shocking things that ever happened to me was i typed in three words into my browser umbilical cord chemical umbilical cord chemical when you guys are done listening to this your listeners are done listening to the show i i hope that you’ll go do that and check it out and you’ll see what i did i found studies michael going back to 2005 that showed that every young child and young mother when a child is born they test the blood of the umbilical cord and they were looking for 400 toxic chemicals and they found 250 of what they were looking for and 180 those caused cancer in humans and 212 cause developmental and brain disorders
and i like literally was i was put back in my seat like i felt something in turn i was like oh my god i’m like if these young babies and young mothers the healthiest of all of us are already polluted now at birth the older we’re all polluted but we can’t see it there’s these microscopic invaders that have gotten inside of us and they are dragging down our immune system and our vitality and it is some it’s like a missing link
and then i realized the older we are and the more time we’ve had to spend on this planet and this in this journey that we have and this gift that we’ve been given the more time we’ve had to bio accumulate these toxins from the air we breathe from the water we drink from the food we eat from the clothes that we wear that are not not natural fibers from shampoos and toothpaste if your toothpaste says harmful if swallowed please contact the poison control center you may want to rethink putting that in your mouth again
so these types of things sunscreens makeups all these things started hitting me and that’s when i was just i thought man if i could do one thing and bring awareness to this and then show people how to stop putting it in which would actually change industry with our buying dollars because we still hope maybe our votes don’t count anymore but when we vote with our dollars it does and if i can show them how to get this these toxins out of their body i can help lift people up on a level they’ve never it’s a microscopic level and and up comes their energy and they boost their immune system
and that’s what we’ve been doing i’ve been doing it myself for 11 years personally in seven years our chemicalfreebody.com our company that’s what my mission has been it’s awareness and then education to stop putting them in and how to get it out and yeah and it’s been working out real well for folks
yeah and i i guess we can’t really avoid getting them in even living our absolute best they’re everywhere we can just decrease right our expertise
and you can substantially decrease
substantially decrease right yeah so agree give me an example
like the first thing people should realize is that like these newer homes that are energy efficient homes they seal them up big time so older homes that are kind of they got drafty homes and stuff like that they actually have air circulating in them better which is much better because we’re supposed to be outside you know we would be in maybe in a hut or something like that or living in a cave at least we’d have fresh air but today with pollution outside in the cities it’s pretty bad
but your home is over 100 times more polluted than any downtown smoggy l.a or you know city in america when you have you know paints off gassing for four and a half years literally after you paint it you have uh glues um in the particle board especially in the summertime if you have carpet in your home it’s off gassing uh a volatile organic compound called formaldehyde and you’re literally embalming yourself and your children slowly
so we need to crack our windows and get air purification systems and be smart about these things
yeah tell me a little bit about the air purification that you would use
uh well the air purifier that i use um i it’s kind of funny you brought that up because i just went on like a one and a half year journey testing a bunch of different ones in my room myself personally and also having people come into my room and what was really interesting the the model that i’ll tell you about is when people would come in when i had this one going
half the people would say wow your air is amazing in here they without me saying nothing or they would say man i feel i feel like i’m uplifted or energized now the other half i would say hey do you feel any different here what do you what do you think do you smell anything and they’re like wow the air smells good smells like fresh mountain air and i feel kind of good
and just think about that from the air we take 20 000 breaths a day michael so it’s pretty important is our number one nutrient behind love right super super important without oxygen you’re dead in about four to seven minutes so it is our primary nutrient and um so it makes a lot of sense to get our air right but we don’t think about that we take it for granted and we can’t see those microscopic toxins so out of sight out of mind we forget about it
so what ended up happening is um the company is called austin air and i use what’s called a health mate plus and that is the
specific unit i do and the reason i like that unit um quite a few reasons i grew up on a farm so you know i’m used to you know tractors and doing the heavy equipment i ran i was in a construction company for a while i like industrial type heavy duty things that are gonna that are made simply that are that are gonna last right that are just gonna last and whether the weather the storm not some rinky dink you know thing with a bunch of gadgets on it that breaks down and stuff right so
this unit is completely the shell is all metal it’s got a very simple knob you turn on it’s got three fan speeds and off um usually these filters in there have about a pound of carbon in them this this one has 15 pounds of carbon and the cool thing about the carbon though is that it does miss some of the volatile organic compounds like formaldehyde that we talked about
this company knew that so they blended a zeolite in with it to pick those up and fill in the gaps
so basically what you have is you have a large particle pre-filter then a medium particle pre-filter then 15 pounds of this carbon zeolite matrix filtering the air and then on inside of it then there’s a hepa filter and a lot of people are familiar with that so this is cool too because we’re actually getting things down to 0.01 microns which is actually smaller than the you know the coronavirus deal so totally great air filtration it’s very simple it’s very powerful
you turn it on 24 7 it lasts about five years um it’s great for wildfires um cleaning up your room um and just yeah and it makes you feel freaking great dude it’s like i literally walk into my room and it’s like i’m on a vic you know up in idaho now visiting somebody so i don’t have it here with me
so i just crack my windows and stuff but i always crack my windows i have that sucker running and i also have um an um himalayan salt lamp going creating negative ions to clean there and then i always also have a diffuser going putting like clove or eucalyptus or lavender or whatever in my hair too so i’m really focused on air and it’s one of the biggest reasons that i’m super healthy now at age 48 and at 37 i was a i was my health was absolute train wreck
so wow wow that’s good um and do you have a link to that if we wanted to check it out more maybe on your website
yeah it’s just on the website it’s under our all products under the products tab
yeah and we’ll get to it again but i think is it chemicalfree.com or yeah
chemical freebody.com chemicalfreebody.com
okay great uh you mentioned toothpaste i’m guessing you have a favorite toothpaste
well i actually like making my own um with coconut oil a little baking soda and some essential oils but i know some people are thinking oh my god that’s a lot there’s actually there’s there’s a few of them out there there’s one that’s out there that’s a lot now is um earth paste and that’s a pretty good one i just i buy the one without the sweetener in it i try to stay away from it’s like xylitol in it which is from the birch tree i just stay away from that
but when you’re looking for something to clean your teeth it should be natural because anything you put in your mouth goes directly through the mucous membrane in the mouth and directly into the bloodstream there is no liver to filter it so then you are swallowing a little bit too so to think that you’re going to put something in your mouth that says harmful if swallowed please contact the poison control center
it just goes to show the level of confusion denial um uh maybe a lack of understanding thinking that there’s some other entity somebody that’s more smarter than you that’s protecting you the reality is that’s not the case um i i thought that that i thought that was the case i thought how could how could we pay all this money in taxes how could any government agency they’re looking out for us right well if they were why would they allow that stuff to be in there
you know another thing i found out was sodium lauryl sulfate is one of those cancer-causing chemicals that they’re finding in the bloodstream of these children these babies it’s i went home dude is the first ingredient on my shampoo
so it’s pretty simple like i said before stop buying products from companies that are polluting you and the planet our environment and start buying and giving your money with companies that have a heart and a soul and a moral compass that are providing good products for you and you change industry those other companies will change they will follow the dollars or they’ll go away and either one’s fine with me but i think that’s where people have to realize that we have all the power with our buying dollars and we we should take back all the power um with our health
and you know i actually went to the hippocrates health institute when i started my journey based on that dude hippocrates right he said let thy food be thy medicine and my medicine be thy food and a lot of people have heard of you’ve heard of that statement probably a billion times right yeah
so one other statement though or a quote that a lot of people never quote him on is he said he who is not his own doctor is a fool and that is very important what i like about that is it empowers people to take back their power and take 100 responsibility for their health and their life in every aspect of their life and when you do that it’s amazing what can happen
yeah wow well those are a couple good ways already to avoid getting chemicals in but once they’re in there we’ve been saturated in them for years how do we get them out
okay well now you got your air right i think number two is getting your water right okay so the first thing to understand is that we don’t live with nature we don’t live in nature we are nature we are an expression of nature
and to draw the lines and connect the dots here what’s your body mostly made of water where do you find water in nature you’re mostly made of water water’s in nature you’re nature right
let’s take another example um the soil has something called bacteria in it or soil microbiome your gut has bacteria in it or gut microbiome many of those bacteria that are in your gut are the exact same ones that are in the soil again we are nature we have 60 trillion bacterial cells in our body 360 viral cells and only six trillion human cells so we’re actually more viru we’re a sack of viruses and bacteria more than we are human we are more them than we are us it’s amazing it’s amazing this machine is amazing
and the other thing is is when we find decide to take our last breath and and we break our body let’s say somebody cremates us or you know over time what’s left a bunch of minerals where else do you find minerals nature i just want to be very clear that people get that connection
this is why we’re so sick today as a society and emotionally spent it’s because we’ve we’ve broken the connection with nature and all literally if if people are really ill i just tell them to get naked i’m joking but not really and just go out in the forest like literally just get out get your you don’t have to get naked but that would be smart you would you wouldn’t believe what happens when you get back into nature
there’s there’s places that people pay money and go to china and they just send people out in the forest and they start healing right getting the bacteria breathing in those negative ions from the forest and the air grounding what’s that grounding in nature you know without the earth if you’re naked you don’t have shoes on
yeah all that stuff so i went off on a tangent you asked me a question you have to rephrase it
oh you were talking about how to get the stuff how to get the chemicals out right
so water water water water is the lubricant of life okay so now the next step is you got your air right you got to get your water right so we have to purify our water today
water researchers years ago went all over the world and they tested water and 1500 miles into the interior michael um in these pristine lakes where there was no man like 1500 miles away from men they were testing the two and two and a half inch fish they had both male and female organs why because of these estrogen mimickers from plastics are so prevalent again these micro plastics um you know when you wear a um like a polyester shirt or a blouse or something like that and you wash it microplastics go out into nature and they they get up into the into the jet stream they get into the water and then think about the concentration levels that we’re at today chemical plants and and these types of things so these little fish have turned into hermaphrodites and this is this is happening in all the tributaries and creeks and rivers and stuff like this now lakes that the amphibians and the little fishes are uh their hormones are getting disrupted
now we’re also seeing this now in humans where guys have got man boobs women are getting more facial hair and stuff like that so in more ovarian cysts uterine cysts breast cancer prostate cancer all these things are hormonal imbalances created by estrogen mimicker from plastics and a lot of other chemicals made from the basis of crude oil
so knowing this and knowing that tap water today i mean flint michigan most people know about that right how do we get to that point where our water is so polluted in our towns that our infrastructure is broken our infrastructure in this country is a d minus
and there wasn’t too long ago around the 1900s when there was dead horses and cows in the water and a bunch of pissed off women got together and said enough of this that was the women’s the the working-class labor movement of the late 1800s 1900s and the women got the sanitation worker and the plumber and they got infrastructure and they got clean water into the cities and that’s what removed 97 to 98 of infectious disease they got the urine and the feces out of the streets and they cleaned up the water
where are we at now we have urine and feces returning to the streets and our water is all jacked up again some water in america a gallon of it tap water can have up to a half of a tablet of pharmaceutical drugs in it some of it you can actually light on fire
like literally so that would be the extreme case but even if it was just a little bit bad this is why i’m trying to impart on people how important it is to take care of your beautiful body which is a system and be a and be an intelligent system and make sure that your inputs are as close to nature as possible clean air clean water
so i i triple purify my water and then i run it through a system that restructures it alkalizes it and then charges it with molecular hydrogen
now why do i do that because if you’re on city tap water this is very important those high pressure pipes are are coagulating the water molecules normally water molecules are like four to five in a cluster and after a city pressure pipes high pressure they’re like 20 to 25. what ends up happening is they’re like bowling balls trying to go through a chain-link fence they bounce off the bowling ball the water molecule the chain link fence your intestinal lining
so i’ve been preaching and teaching water for at one point eight and a half years it was like 2018 right something like that and this gal is like oh tim you got to get this water and she was all about alkalinization i said look that’s great for people with cancer i’m kind of beyond that now i’ve healed myself i don’t need it i need purified water first i don’t need it but she wouldn’t leave me alone so thank god
so finally she puts me on the phone with the water expert and at the end of a 45 minute conversation you’d think i’d be open after all the stuff i learned i was trying to open up but i was still close-minded back then a little bit and he said tim just go drink the effing water
so i was like okay so he spoke my language redneck and i went over to uh denucia’s house aka water woman i call her now and she said she poured me a quart of this water and she said don’t eat anything before you come over that’s okay
so i drank the water and then she put a little salt in my hand not much just a little himalayan salt she goes that’s going to help increase absorption
and she goes in 15 minutes i’m going to have you drink another quart and i was like okay well i drink a lot of water but i don’t know if i can do a whole another court in 15 minutes i mean i was like the water master i thought and guess what i drank that second quart michael and it was like the first court wasn’t even there it was gone
and she goes now i’ve never done this before because normally this would call what’s called a hertz reaction people would start detoxing they would get sick they’d get flu-like symptoms because this water is so powerful detoxer she goes i’m going to give you a third cord because you you know i grow about 70 of my food to sprouts and all this stuff and i juice and green juices twice all these things i’ve learned to rebuild and maintain my health
and so about 24 minutes into it right before the 30 minute mark where i was going to drink that third water it was like and my brain just like lit up and my arms started tingling again
i had that experience once the first time at the hippocrates health institute on about day four or five on their program where i looked at my buddy charles and i was like dude you feel as good as i do he’s like yeah i said my arms are tingling my brain is clear i haven’t felt this my mental fog is completely gone had been plaguing me for years and getting worse and worse
i said dude we’ve discovered the fountain of youth well that water experience was about three times the level of you know whoa and i and i
so i drank the third one i walked out of there i thanked her i said thank you so much and i went i was teaching a group coaching class that night and i switched the whole topic and i talked about this water the whole time afterwards i called her up and i bought the machine and um i’ve been high in water ever since
yeah yeah and chemicals out you have got to get your water right this is number one
that was the molecular hydrogen water
yes yeah same thing
okay yeah good awesome so clean water
so those are the two things now beyond that we have a product called toxin detox that pulls out heavy metals radiation pollution this type of stuff but there’s other things you can do um you know green juices corellas eating things like um a cilantro helps pull stuff out you know people do these foot baths um good sleep exercise is really important uh to to move the lymphatic system to push the toxins out and also infrared saunas are big for for detoxification infrared saunas because you’re sweating you’re perspiring eliminating naturally
yeah well it’s what you’re kind of doing is you’re you’re inducing kind of like a um an artificial fever right a higher metabolism when somebody gets the flu bug their body the body heats up the core temperature to kill the virus right they were doing this over in europe for cancer they probably still are it’s called hyperthermia they were raising the core temperature of the body of their patients um you had to be under medical supervision they would uh because they had to put you on like uh some type of an anti-convulsion medication but it was it was working it was killing cancer cells
so um dr coyne i don’t know if you know him but he was he had a conversation with dr clement he’s a you know if you have two specialties in medicine you’re considered a genius this guy had like five he helped siemens corporation develop virtual colonoscopies um
so many people in the u.s have cancer today michael they heard about that hyperthermia treatment they were doing in europe it was working that the they squawked to the fda and the fda um hired uh dr coyne in like six of his five six of his colleagues and they did this five-year study on hyperthermia and at the end of that study the conversation with dr clement was this he said brian if you’ll just get your patients into an infrared sauna six days a week for 30 minutes it’s much more effective at killing cancer cells than the hypothermia treatment that we just studied for five years which by the way is very effective
so brian plastered the entire institute with uh these really awesome saunas i became a sonic dealer myself um and i’ve been taking a sauna for 30 minutes for a day for nine years because they’re so good they push crap out of your body
now recently i switched to a different unit because there was a breakthrough technology i discovered and it’s been around for 20 years i can’t believe i didn’t know it before this but i got into this sauna and i had acne on my face chest and back for two and a half weeks i was very excited about it because i knew i was detoxing a deeper level
and then two months into the program i started having all this gray stuff coming out of me just pouring into my towel and i called up phil the owner and i said hey dude what is this is it mold heavy metals it’s most likely heavy metals
well growing up as a kid lead fishing weights loading shotgun shells you know i swallowed some gasoline one time siphoning gas on my dad’s pickup to put up my motorcycle i mean i was just around a lot of heavy metals and stuff like that we probably had lead paint back in the day i grew up in the 70s so um for five months michael and i’ve been clean i’ve been cleaning myself out for like almost 11 years for five months this is just recent i had this gray stuff pouring out so
at first i was freaked out and then i got really excited about it but it just kept coming out now it’s just it dribbles out i have a little bit my towel sometimes but five months so infrared saunas are super important not for just detoxification which is important but to handle viruses bacteria mold yeast fungus parasites and these mutagens these cancer i think it’s a must today
yeah i’m always cautious in recommending detoxification programs because it can be pretty uncomfortable ugly and even dangerous you know uh sometimes things we take and throw up our gut flora and and make things actually worse not better uh do you have any cautions on that what to maybe avoid or or how to approach a detoxification plan
yeah i i think you’re you’re really talking about something really important here because you know when i first went to hippocrates the the greenhouse manager michael burgonzian do you know that guy no you meet him he was honestly yeah he was on his 10th day of a water fast
now here i am the redneck meat eater junk food eater and they’re telling me i drink green juices and coconut waters and eat sprouts so to me that was like a fast right even though it was like this you know avocados and bountiful stuff
which by the way in three days i was so saturated with nutrients i wasn’t even hungry it was the weirdest thing ever because i used to i eat like garfield it’s like an empty garbage disposal unit um what ended up happening was i’m like this guy’s crazy 10 days on only water i couldn’t even comprehend it right i couldn’t even comprehend it
so if somebody is you know they’re overweight and on medications and stuff like that to do a water fast or something like that you better be under medical supervision you know you should probably go to the true north clinic and let dr goldhamer and his his team help you
but beyond that i think people should start small what we what we do is we just we just want you to start drinking more water let’s just start there let’s up your water intake 95 of people listening to this call well maybe not your listeners but in america and around the world are not drinking enough water
96 are not chewing their food well which is the first step in the dominoes of digestion
98 are not avoiding liquids with meals right a lot of people are diluting their digestive enzymes after they’ve chewed their food well
and 99 are not doing any breath work to calm themselves down and put take them out of fight or flight and put themselves into rest and digest mode before they eat
those are actually our core four secrets that is the foundation that we teach over here in chemical free body um for our paid clients and everybody else it’s those core four things we believe are the foundation
we get that stuff started first people like well what am i going to eat what am i exercising i said don’t worry about it you don’t even have the foundation in place yet you need to get your water right we need to get you chewing your food avoiding liquids with meals and doing some breath work before you eat
once we get that in place and then we have our products that are kind of like a little clinic in a box that’ll come in and start working their magic we do that first and then they have the energy and the propensity to want to start making those changes with their diet because you know it’s it’s and they have more mental clarity and they’re excited about it rather than oh i’m going to give up everything i love that’s you know destroying them but there’s a weird dynamic there and then they have the energy they want to go they want to go start walking they want to go start you know jumping on a mini trampoline or joining a yoga class or a stretching class or going on a walk very important stuff
so we want to create an environment so people feel pulled to do something through the transformation internally and mentally rather than having to push themselves because willpower and that kind of stuff it just it doesn’t work we have to reverse it where we’re getting pulled
yeah i like the core four i’m going to have to uh put those in the show notes uh below this video underneath the podcast if you’re listening to the podcast i those are great keys thank you for sharing those if anyone missed them and didn’t uh write them down look in the show notes they’re going to be there
they go to our website if they’re on there for a little bit it’ll say do you want a free gift if they put their email and hit a button we’d deliver them the ebook on the core four secrets with some recipes and some other stuff in there
ah beautiful
in detail in much more detail than i went into
good yeah yeah excellent yeah and it’s worth going into so uh everyone check it out get the download
um you talked about plant foods being natural detoxifiers and you mentioned things like chlorella and you know let’s talk let’s talk phyto nutrition and and plant foods and algaes as detoxifiers
you have your own green product and you it’s no secret i do too uh we spoke about this last time and uh we’re going to get into the little thing that i learned from you because i think i was closed-minded on on something i’ll get to that okay but uh
you know i remember hearing from uh a lot of people know chris work from crispycancer.com right and he was talking about the importance of fruits and vegetables and recommended that people have a product that they liked and that they used regularly and and and that maybe even switch it now and then because your uh formula might have things that mine doesn’t and mine might have things at yours that you know and it’s kind of a way of making sure we get all of this very very important nutrition things that you’re not going to get in a multivitamin you know multi-mineral complex which i don’t take anyway but you know it’s all of those nutrients that there’s too many of them that you can’t put them in a pill bottle without going to the food source
how did you get started with yours why’d you decide that was important and you’re going to make your own formula
well my you know i’ll just tell the listeners like in two when i was 37 years old i was 42 pounds overweight i had exam on both of my elbows and my knee they would crack and bleed especially in the winter i had another skin issue on my shoulder um that the doctor squirted some like cortisone in there or something and ate it away and then it had like a dent it was kind of purple and then it popped three more fat things popped up around it and i was like oh my god this could happen on my face right
and then um i started bleeding rectally for two and a half years when i pooped that’s why my shirt if you guys are listening you can’t see it says love when you poop because when i used to poop for two and a half years it was a on a one to ten on a pain scale was a six or seven followed by blood and then i just like hope that goes away and i’d go about my business
went to doctors did all these things they want to put me on parlour sack do all these things i just it didn’t sound right it sounded like an alien so i i was i guess on a deeper level i was smart enough not to put those synthetics in my body but i wasn’t smart enough to change my diet or do anything
so um when we went to hippocrates they were you know they’re it’s like the great-great-grandfather of the green juice right and they make their green juice with 50 sunflower and pea sprouts and 50 cucumber celery and you drink two of those a day every day
so i came home i got the juicer and because they said at the take it home program if you’re not doing two green juices a day you’re not on the hippocrates protocol do not expect the same results
so my friend that i went with had chronic lymphocytic leukemia it was a blood cancer they had no cure for him so he went there to hippocrates he asked me to go with him and i said let’s do this i’m gonna do this with you i after a week there i felt better and i felt like my whole life i felt like i was 15 18 years old again and i bought a 600 dollar kenpo kp3 1-304 unit and i started growing sprouts and juicing
and i never missed dude five and a half years i made i grew and made a green juice every single day and i completely transformed my health so i was sold down the river first person experience on green juices
now the problem was sometimes when i was traveling i couldn’t get access to it and i was pissed about it and i knew fresh was best so i was growing these living foods
so um i ran into this guy his wife was actually working hippocrates he was a chef and he had this buddy that was an old formulator and he was kind of an eclectic dude and he says he he’s packed he’s like 73 years old he works 15 hours a day he won’t take on any more clients but maybe he’ll take you on because on my recommendation because we’re best friends
and he did and he started we we he made this green powder for me he said this is as close as you’re gonna get to a fresh fresh juice highly concentrated we don’t sacrifice there’s no let’s cut cost it was the most expensive ingredients we could find and i started doing that
well i gave one day when we were delivering sprouts to because we used to deliver sunflower pea sprouts and wheatgrass to 40 50 cancer patients a week out of my garage i kind of got into doing that teaching classes this little lady with kidney issues was juicing wheatgrass
and she called me and she said hey i went to dr bailey’s office was one of our pickup zones and my wheatgrass wasn’t there and i’m just thinking oh my god it’s going to be a two and a half hour drive in traffic to get this tour and back i’m just like i don’t have time
i was like hey let me i’m gonna mail you this bag of green powder i want you to try and she said but you said fresh is best i was like i know but i want you to try it and i liked it
um a week later she called me and she says hey i love this stuff it gives me just as much energy as the wheatgrass and i don’t have to clean that damn juicer and i was like oh right so for her she didn’t have a lot of strength in her shoulders and i get it
so i didn’t think anything of it here i am trying to figure out how i’m going to get out of the financial services industry and help people with her health and actually make a living at it
and um two weeks later she calls me up she goes i need some more of this and i’m like well he won’t take on any more people i called him up nope i ain’t taking nobody else on he goes i gotta get rid of clients and i was like dang it and i said well just send me a six pound bag of that stuff and all
so i just started making packets for her and then i thought well i’ll send this out to six of my friends so i wrote green stuff on it called six of my buddies so once you try this stuff in a week four of them called me up before i even called them they said hey this stuff tastes terrible but my god do i feel good
um i need some more and i was like oh my god this could be one way because i was gonna coach people which i did i was coaching i was coaching people already for free and then i started charging for that um
and that’s how the whole thing got started so i was shipping it out out of my garage bagging it and then we finally made a little label and dressed it up
and now we have dr scott treadway our formulator he’s one of the top formulas in the world and he’s super healthy his skin looks like he’s 35 the guys you know if you’ve met i’m going to introduce you guys for sure we talked about that um and we have um a gmp certified you know lab and all that stuff and and i’m kind of piggybacking off his 40 years and his connections with farms and and suppliers to get the best stuff and and we ship worldwide now and it’s uh kind of crazy but that’s how the whole thing started
the the first time i had a green powder before uh making our own brand uh a big scoop of it i felt different with the first serving the very first serving i felt so good that i kept my mouth closed about it i didn’t tell anybody because i thought you know there must be cocaine in this or something what is making me feel so good and i wanted more
and i after a few days i had a couple of family members approach me and they were wondering if i was taking antidepressants i had a i had to convince them you know i was never depressed i was just you know i worked so long and i come home i didn’t have any energy left i was wiped out and and now i’m charged up what are you what are you doing you know i’m taking this green powder and of course can i have some
and they had similar experiences it was you know i didn’t have the nutrition in my body to fuel the amount of work i was doing i was running out i was nutrient depleted
people don’t realize until they take the nutrient dense foods and that’s what this is you know we’ve the water’s been removed it’s been condensed a lot of the fiber has been removed you’re getting the nutrients from these fruits vegetables algaes grasses whatever happens to be in that formula and they are powerful so very similar
um experience and yeah and i would say this when i got back from hippocrates i thought because they were pushing supplementation hippocrates the only thing i walked out of there with was digestive enzymes because i went to a class and kind of made sense with me because all the stuff i’ve been eating and done to my gut i wanted to rehabilitate my digestive tract so i knew that was part of the process those digestive enzyme deals
but i’m like no i’m nature boy i stayed away from prior sack and all that stuff i don’t need this stuff i’m gonna heal naturally well two years it took me two years dude two years into the process i was reading educating myself and i found out that 85 of the nutrients have been completely farmed out of the soil
so that’s when it hit me kind of like a thunderbolt i’m like oh it doesn’t matter if i’m eating healthy or organic foods it’s still 85 deficient i am running around on 15 fuel imagine what we could feel like if we’re at 100 so i knew i was getting more some of that from all obviously the fresh sprouts and stuff like that was giving me a tremendous amount
so that’s when i decided to add in that um also add in that green powder and supplementation and it took my health up another two levels so um i kind of had a little crow on that but i’m very glad i did and
i just keep learning man it’s like adding the supplementation add in the water the purifier you know i just keep grounding mats you know all these things and you just keep stacking them and you get a new lifestyle and your your body responds quite well
yeah i love it so the here here it is this is the uh cliffhanger revealed on where we had where i learned from you last time
knowing the importance of fruits and vegetables and how much we should consume in a day um i was against capsules i’m you know had to be in a scoop form because you can get much more you can get you know in a single scoop you can get 30 or 40 capsules worth right
but some people are using uh capsules for the reasons that they just won’t use green powder if it if they have to taste it they don’t all taste great and i i you may have given some other reasons to say no you know capsules work too
anyone here i would recommend if you haven’t uh tried a green formula try mine try tim’s um if you don’t like them find one that you like yeah find one that you’ll stick with and if you’re not going to use a scoop get the capsules
yeah we actually have people i’ve got a couple dozen people that are making their own capsules and we finally got to the size now where i’m going to do a real small run and we’re going to actually encapsulate some and offer that to people but just just to make it easier on them because
some people you know that’s what makes the world go around everybody’s different right we’re all unique individuals and some people just don’t like the taste and a lot of times especially in the beginning people’s taste buds are so jacked up because they’re so polluted that’s one of the reasons and i tell people if you don’t like the taste you really need it and that’s that’s actually honest truth
so capsules really help people and i just tell them drink them with a lot of water and the capsules will open up and the stomach will swish them around and you’ll get the nutrients just because you’re still deficient like everybody else so you got to get that stuff somewhere and you know some people just it’s weird to me but you know i guess i was doing it too but a lot some people just don’t like vegetables they don’t like greens whatever we have a lot of clients like that but they’ll take that green juice and just get it in because they know it’s good for them and how it makes them feel amazing
yeah yeah and to drive the point home and how important this is um a lot of people don’t realize you know the government agencies have really just identified a handful of vital or vitamins vital nutrients and they were the obvious ones you know if you don’t get enough vitamin d you get rickets and vitamin c scurvy and all the things that you know show up more quickly when you don’t have the right nutrition
and that number of you know uh the recommended dietary intake i think it used to be called recommended daily allowance when i was a kid it’s changed over the years and the number of nutrients has grown every now and then they realize oh if we don’t have this particular nutrient eventually this develops so the recommendations are continuously being adjusted and certain nutrients are being added
when it comes to plant foods you know it’s interesting there’s like seven major classifications of these phytonutrients and if you took one of the classifications for instance the the terpenes well there’s four you know sub classifications of the terpenes and one of those being carotenoids and and there’s something like you know 400 carotenoids that are important for us to be getting in our diet from plant foods
there’s thousands estimated like some 25 000 important nutrients that we should be getting from phytonutrients but i guarantee it’s even bigger than that because there’s too many for us to study we’re not going to ever realize how many there are and the important benefits of each one
what we do know is if we get so many fruits and vegetables all the colors represented hopefully a good organic source so they’re nutrient dense there’s more nutrients in the organic fruits and vegetables we get that variety all the colors from different sources maybe on the fruit and vegetable side
if you don’t like fruits okay good emphasize the vegetables so be it um
yeah let me shed some light on this because it’s i i first off when i in 2011 when i did my first part of my transformation we have one of the top phytochemical researching institutes it’s it’s at oregon state university in my home state right and at that point in time they had they had they were they had counted i think 70 70 71 000 phytochemicals out of just wheat grass phyto means plant chemical or plant nutrient phytochemical phytonutrient same show right
in 2012 a year later they were up to 74 000 and still counting we could have hundreds of thousands if not millions of these phytochemicals these plant nutrients that have the ability to prevent reverse disease
point in case in what was it 1991 somewhere in there johns hopkins the cancer research division discovered the phytonutrient supply thing out of broccoli right
i don’t remember that
i think george bush senior was in was a president at the time and this actually made national news this 50-year phytochemical researcher in cancer said that the sulphur thing in broccoli he said it was the biggest discovery ever in the history of cancer he said i look in the petri dish they’ve got the support they’re the cancer cells it would just kill cancer cells just kill it and they named it phyto chemo or plant chemo like think about this the top place johns hopkins the top researcher he says this is the best thing he’s ever seen in cancer in 50 years
that made national news and from that little blip on the mainstream media the price of broccoli seed doubled and broccoli has been doubled and stayed doubled ever since then more than alfalfa or red clover or radish it’s still there’s still more
so that just goes to show you the power of the media and people are not stupid if we’re given the correct information people will act and you see their their dollars drove that industry the more money more people wanted broccoli the seed went up because the supply and demand this is again how we change industry
now you don’t have to be a you can be an engineer you can be a rocket scientist you can be a phytochemical researcher but if you just use common sense and understand that nature has been around for billions of years
kind of like ann whitten where the gal that you know started the hippocrates health institute she held herself a stage for colon cancer her grandmother was her surrogate grandma was the village doctor back in lithuania and did a very very uh robust very um test on on grass because she actually healed herself with lawn grass because all grasses are the same they have chlorophyll in it and all these phytochemicals she says i wonder which one’s best
so she took wheatgrass and rye grass and barley glass and long grass and she did a very rigorous experiment she opened up the door and she let the dog in and the dog sniffed all the grasses and went back and ate the wheatgrass then they shooed the dog out of there then she opened up the door and she let the cat in the cat sniffed all the grasses and ate the wheatgrass
so the first one was called a lab experiment right the dog the second one this is the joke the second one was a cat scan right very very comprehensive things and isn’t it funny that now in 2011 i just told you that story that the top phytochemical researchers at oregon state university were studying wheat grass and wigmore figured that out years ago with a dog and a cat
so all we have to do is use our common sense and our instincts we don’t need to research this stuff we just need to put it in our bodies
yeah yeah and get our own first person experience that’s what’s going to tell you if it’s working don’t rely on me or michael or anybody else try it out see how it makes you feel and then you’ll know then you’ll know
but we’re still going to tell you
yeah you know we’re going to try to lead you so you can try it right
yeah but because the reality is they do so much more than we we know you know you call them uh phytochemicals um phytonutrition phytonutrients um they you know we were talking about getting chemicals out of our bodies they are one of their functions are acting as natural detoxifiers i don’t know why we call them antioxidants that’s only one of the things they do they act as antioxidants they have the ability to absorb free radicals which can prevent you know aging and damage and cancers and stuff like that but why don’t we call them detoxifizer detoxifiers i’ll tell you why because they do more than that they help regulate hormones why not call them hormone regulators you know well because they also increase intracellular communication maybe we should call them neurotransmitters they do so much for us and things that we’re only beginning to realize
i want to encourage everyone listening if you haven’t tried a green product get one and if you don’t like the taste of it use it and when it’s done find another one that maybe
if you don’t like the taste of it add lemon juice to it first or lime juice or both or i actually had a guy that um his son actually won the state championship in high school years back and his son said dad he goes i love how this stuff makes me feel he goes i am just practicing the games my energy in the fourth quarter is ridiculous because i hate the taste of this stuff i hate it so he actually came to his dad he said hey if you put this in unsweetened cranberry juice he goes it tastes like a smoothie and that was what he figured out right
so or you could actually put it in some nut milk and we really like sprouted nut milks but any nut milk will do just to try to get the different flavor try many different things try to figure it out capsules whatever you got to do
get this stuff in you and just let it do its magic because it is it is really all you’re and all you’re really doing is you’re just plugging yourself back into the home station the home base where you’re from you’re an expression of nature you’re just getting back to your roots literally
yeah good stuff that’s a good word well you know we can go on forever um you are truly one of those people unique individuals you found out so much on your own out of your own need and i know there’s people listening right now that want to know more about you what they can do where can they go to find more of your story and and learn from all of your mistakes
yeah absolutely now the easiest place to just go to our website just go to chemicalfreebody.com
um my pod i have a podcast called the health hero show if you want to get free information it’s on spotify itunes google play all those things and i also have a player on the website that’s free information
we have a group coaching community people can kick the tires on that and check it out we go live every week once uh and i want to have you on too i’d like to have you on my maybe at the end of this month january you could come on and talk to my group
that was good i’d love to
once a month i have dr scott treadway our formulator come on it’s the second tuesday of the month and then the other two times i’m come on there with the topic um tomorrow we’re going to be doing um vision boards for the beginning of the year which will be cool and getting people i mean i do all kinds of stuff we do meditations we talk about gut health i bring people on we talk about clinics i mean we talk about everything and we have a great community
and then we have our products of course and if people are interested in those i just tell them just go to the products tab because we have a lot of them and just like pick a savings there’s a thing called savings bundles you get a discount and then um uh you know jumpstart bundle or i do what’s called the total energy and detox bundle um or pick anything that fits your budget or whatever gravity you gravitate to
and then at checkout you know what i should do michael is we can create um a five percent discount code what do you want it to be you want it to be dr haley
dr haley would be wonderful d-r-h-a-l-e-y
okay just put in dr haley at checkout and you get a double discount so and then we have a double your money back guarantee in all of our products and
and like michael said it it doesn’t on the green product it doesn’t really matter mix and match whatever i i
i’ve already had you on my show there is so much need out there and people need so much help um that you and i can work 24 7.
i don’t think we can make a dent
but i i think we are making a dent actually i have to change my perspective on that because um that’s why we’re waking up every day and doing what we do
because i could just sit back and be healthy by myself i don’t need to you know to do anything else but i i get excited
like i actually called a guy yesterday and just random i call clients every once in a while and he said he was him and his wife met in the military and right afterwards he got in a car accident was pronounced dead at the scene and he fractured his spine and just blew himself up i mean everything was torn apart and he said that um our green product actually helped him to get his bowel movements going again which is very big they get t9 fracture it was really really bad severed or something like that
i had another gal that said she was packing she’s a lineman for um for the electrical companies and she’d actually crushed her spine and she was in pain and stuff and then she’d gotten on the products and followed a bunch of advice and stuff the stuff that you teach as well and and um her spine was regenerating and um and her hair and nails is growing back and she had her energy back
you know it’s stories like that or just could be somebody going to work right this one dude called me and he’s like dude he’s like i gotta thank you so much because i would come home and my little boy wanted to play catch and i literally had no energy i was done and he goes now i can play catch with my son
and i just envision this guy playing catch with his son it’s like that’s why we do what we do these these are working class people like you and me they just don’t have the right information because society’s not teaching this stuff and mom and dad didn’t know it it’s not their fault but that’s it’s it’s just out there man it’s nature that’s the message man let’s just get back to nature and everything will start turning around for you
yeah yeah well you’re not just teaching it you’re also doing it in fact we talked a little bit earlier today and you told me about how your day started which was a lot like how mine starts um but would you share that with my audience and uh how your day the things that you do in it what your typical day looks like and how it ties in with the core four
yeah absolutely so the first thing that we teach over here and that i practice as well is that your your day starts with your bedtime routine it’s the night before so an hour before you go to bed you got to start preparing for bed because if you’re on your cell phone laptop and you’re working you got those blue lights going you are not going to be producing melatonin because your body still thinks it’s daylight
we tell people get away from the electronics we actually go into depth on this stuff we show we actually have people come in engineers or electricians will put a switch at least on the bedroom so people can like turn all the electricity out of the room completely at night
we want the room to be completely dark fresh air crack your windows if you don’t have a purifier yet even if you do have a purifier crack your freaking window um get a good quality bed i mean we go through all these things you know and and then and and then and then go to sleep right
and there’s other things take a sauna before you go to bed if you don’t have a sonic rinse off with water we we really focus on sleep that’s very important
and then you have consistency you go to bed at the same time you wake up at the same time and i woke up this morning around 4 30 i was doing some stuff um i read a book for probably half an hour i played guitar for an hour maybe a little bit longer because i’m working on a song right now i did yoga with a meditation practice that i do
and um i drank some water with lemon in it and then i had a green juice um i actually made a matcha tea and i drink a little bit of coconut water and that’s that’s all i’ve had today
i mean what people understand is like when you eat food when you it’s a tremendous amount of energy to to process that stuff 60 to 80 percent of our energy is used to process food so that’s the first thing we you want to get people doing something
the first thing we do is we get them to to break you know breakfast is breaking the fast is change the heavy meal for breakfast for liquid nourishment that’s the first thing unless you’re bulimic or anorexic we’re not trying to give those people permission and if you’re type 2 diabetic then you would eat monolithically like a lean green leafy salad or quinoa or tef or something like that and then after you get well you can go back to the liquid nourishment thing
but everybody else that’s the first step just try to get off that heavy breakfast and i know it’s good pancakes french toast bacon eggs i mean i grew up with the smell still gets me
but if i could remember what my friend said he said uh something about like feeling good is better than anything taste or something like that
that’s my buddy who healed himself with cancer he’s oh nothing tastes as good as healthy feels that’s what he said nothing tastes as good as healthy feels he was in the pro he was he was looked like he was gonna die and he saved his own butt he took his own power back and cleaned up his lifestyle and i did it right there beside him and and i just never looked back man
i just want people to be inspired to do the same thing and realize that your body is not much different than mine in michael’s you got arms and feet and red blood cells and the lymphatic system and you know you’re going to drink some water so if you’re going to drink water tomorrow next week next month let’s get your water right
if you’re going to breathe some air today tomorrow next week next month let’s get your air right
let’s just get these basic inputs let’s be an intelligent system let’s not be an open or dumb system and just keep going with the flow with what everybody else is doing because look around it is not working we have a broken system in our health we have a we have a massive health crisis before this whole kova deal even showed up and you know we could get into that but i don’t know don’t want to get too political on that stuff but i will if you want me to
well you know i have already uh gotten rid of half our audience i think on that by going into that topic already so those that are still here are probably in agreement with us so no need to
yeah rely on a little bit because you know there’s a there’s a big division and yeah we can get into it but no point in it
i would say this that that division is created intentionally and that’s what we have to do
now the old redneck tim because i literally have to end with this i was coming back from eastern oregon and this guy is like literally out in the middle of the woods walking his dog with a mask with a mask on and you know we have research we showed even before kova that mass like increase your uh respiratory infections by 13 times so if you want to get covered wear a mask right there’s just we don’t need to get into all that but the old tim would have been like look at that stupid sob blah blah blah blah
but the new tim that has learned how to articulate this and learned that that that that dialectic has been created on purpose to take us and divide us because it’s easier to conquer people when they’re divided and we’re fighting infighting against each other
now when i see somebody wearing a mask like that i say that guy cares about his health he cares about his health that’s why he’s wearing the mess that’s why they got the vaccine they actually care about their house they just have a different belief system because they have different information because they’ve been that’s been put into it’s been put into them
right yeah wow that’s a good way to talk to him and meet him in the middle and say hey you wear a mask because you care about your health don’t you he’s like yeah
and you know what i found out a lot of people are not doing it to protect themselves they’re decent people michael and they don’t want to hurt other people that’s why they’re doing it right or they get the vaccine because they they
and then they’re interested they i said are you interested in public health for kids and they’re like oh yeah i said me too i don’t wear a mask because i’m interested in public health and you do wear a mask because you’re interested in public health
so let’s both agree on public health
and then if we look at public health what’s the number one denominating factor to that that says what public health is it’s infrastructure i went right back to that woman’s labor movement they cleaned up the urine of the feces and the dead horses and cows out of the water supply they got the the sanitation worker and the plumber have done more for this country health than the pharmacist and the doctor ever will
measles is an example 14 out of 100 000 people was dying of measles and infectious disease the year 1900 by the year 1945 98 eradicated the measles vaccine hit the scene in 1963.
so was it the doctor and the pharmacist no it was the it was the infrastructure the clean water and cleaning up the streets that was built on the backs of a working class movement that cleaned it up
so that’s what we got to do we have to stop being lazy and we have to come together and stop fighting and drop our egos and start loving each other and and find that common ground that’s the only way we’re going to heal this world
yeah and that’s exactly what you did in that in that perspective of oh you’re wearing a mask you must care about your health and dropping the ego looking at it from that perspective and i i love it that’s a that’s a great way to look at things
so it’s the only way that we’re going to come back together
oh man hey tim thank you so much for doing what you do and being on the show um my listeners go check him out subscribe to his content try his products and continue to grow in the knowledge and in your health
well dr haley i got to say something about you man i i do probably five podcasts a week and um i’ve met a lot of people and i am very in tune to people’s vibrational frequency and the listeners probably already know this but i can tell down to my bones that you actually care about people and then you wha you have people’s best interests at heart so
your listeners are very fortunate to have you um your wife is very fortunate to have you we haven’t talked i don’t have you have any kids
i have four kids
and they’re very they have a very fortunate life to have you and their life man we’re this this planet is very fortunate to have you um so i’m just i’m honored that you had me on your show and if there’s anything i can do to help you um help other people i’m down you just give me a call
absolutely thank you and maybe the listeners will ask some questions and and set up the next meeting between us too how does that sound
great brother thank you so much thank you tim you

