How To Read DNA Test Results

For those that want to see our discussion before we purchased the test:

Resources

TIMESTAMPS:

4:12 What is Epigenetics and Gene Expression?
5:24 What is a genetic snip?
6:25 What information is available with DNA test?
8:20 Example DNA Health Report “Low Mood” (aka depression)
9:30 Dr. Haley’s “bird’s eye view” of how we use the DNA report
10:00 Example DNA Health Report “Mood Swings” (aka bipolar)
14:00 How to verify the information in the DNA reports by checking the scientific references
16:00 Example of specific Lifestyle and dietary recommendations given to suppress the genetic expression of undesireable genes
17:30 Exploring the category “hormone balance” in the DNA results
23:20 The controversial estrogen discussion
26:00 A discussion of the benefit of genetic testing
26:30 the benefits and detriments of Growth Hormone
27:55 the androgenic DHT male sex hormone created from testosterone
29:00 a discussion of dopamine and symptoms of low levels
31:00 What do enzymes do?
32:00 How the genetic test results are already impacting Michelle and why she is happy I am here with her during the results.
34:40 hypoglycemia and how it interacts with mood, focus, and concentration
35:45 DNA Health Report “Low Blood Sugar” and sugar cravings “I love sugar”…
36:50 Gymnema’s potential for blood sugar balance
39:30 An explannation of how the various reports are arranged and available on the geneticinsights.co website
42:55 An explannation of the “limitless package” vs. the individual packages
43:43 A screenshare showing how to shop for your genetic test and DNA kit if needed.
46:30 Dr. Haley explains why he feels the limitless package is the best deal
50:00 Bonus Content: Ending on a Positive note… DNA results are not all poo poo… a discussion of oxytocin and more.

TRANSCRIPTION

This is the Doctor Haley show podcast and we’re revisiting Elwin Robinson…who has geneticinsights.co is it dot c o? Yes Thank you GeneticInsights.co and Michelle had taken the genetics test and we are here with Elwin today to go over results and figure out what we…learned from this test. And Elwin before we started recording this was interesting because you started talking about well it’s less accurate but it’s not actually less accurate it’s just there’s less things to find out when someone is living a real healthy lifestyle Right? Yeah Absolutely i would say I’ve done this with quite a few health gurus Not many of them are willing to do it it on the in front of a camera on a podcast Sorry I admire your courage, Michelle…
But I’ve done it with quite a few And yeah the results seem to be less accurate because of course we’re giving risk factors for various different issues There’s no guarantee that anyone will get any of them But what I do observe is when someone has a very high percentile risk factor, Usually by the time they’re about forty ish they either have the problem or they have had the problem. But the one exception to that is people like yourselves who are highly committed to health and who really look after themselves. But what I do see there is quite often maybe we’ll look at the recommendations and we’ll notice that the per the person doesn’t have the problem that they have a high likelihood of getting. But they have quite likely been following many of the recommendations for a long time And so I guess you could say it’s still accurate in that sense. Yeah So and making more sense out of that if there’s a genetic predisposition towards a certain cancer.
That doesn’t mean you’re going to get that cancer. There are certain things that will activate the gene or what Deactivate put it to sleep I don’t know how you what the proper…
terminology is. And if we’re living that lifestyle that already kind of makes that gene unable to reveal itself, then we’re not going to see the symptoms that doesn’t change the fact that she might still have that particular gene. Yeah Exactly Yeah It’s gene expression so as the whole field of epigenetics, and that basically means, which of these genetic variants are expressed. And so, we obviously have lifestyle diet upbringing environment, all of those things can change what genes are expressed as you say, and influence whether a person manifests most of their risk factors or very few So we still do have a huge level of control over our own health and our own destiny. And of course that’s the case Otherwise we wouldn’t be able to give recommendations, Well the reason we can and do give recommendations is because you can change it But what you can’t change is your innate genetic, risk factors like the that so the Snips as they called we talked about that in the last episode.
You’re born with them and you have them throughout your whole life but whether they are being read or expressed or not is a lot of that is down to how healthy you live your life? No I am also curious as to…
what…genes were recorded in this test. And as an example I believe Friday I’m gonna be meeting with one of your friends that was being tested for, possibly having, I’m guessing the HLA B-27 gene which might predispose them to ankylosing spondylitis…
Mhmm. In this particular test are all of those things available to us is it one complete test and we’re just not necessarily looking at at them all Would we actually be able to see if she had that articular gene based on the test that we already did? yeah So that’s a good question. It partly depends on, what the original…data gathering source was someone uses Ancestry.com If someone uses twenty three and me if someone uses my heritage so different, companies will test different snips to some degree although there is a lot of overlap between them which is why we’re able to do our service, with people who have data from all those different sources. if someone uses our service then it is a broad variety, currently we do not have a report for every single gene because…
there would be, thousands hundreds of thousands it would be an absolute nightmare to filter the way through We have recently added a section for genes And so we have around eighty at the moment of some of the most important ones And so you can see we do have some of the HLA variants here Michael. Like we have HLADQ that’s the only one that thinks that oh HLADQA-2. So there’s a few of them actually that Michelle has a, suboptimal snip in let’s put it that way. but I don’t think we have the specific one you mentioned in this list We don’t have a specific report dedicated to it However…I don’t think we…
I’ll have to check if I’m not sure if we have a report on ankylosing spondylitis But if we did, then we will pull up the report for that and then it would give her a risk score of that not just based on that one gene but based on a bunch of different genes, and it would list them on one of the pages of the report. So for most of the reports So this is a list of genes but most of the reports, if I pull up another random one like say digestive health you can see there’s nausea, peptic ulcers leaky gut that kind of stuff So if we were to pull out one of those, in fact should I just pull out one So Sure. Give an example. So let’s pull up a really broad one like low mood I noticed. So and the good news for Michelle on this one is that you do not have a tendency for a low mood which I think is what we have to call it but really it’s depression.
There’s not a strong genetic tendency for depression which is great You can see you’re on the lower percentile for that. and so you can see…
that there is a bunch of genes here Michael, that we’ve listed and then…There are some of them that are, the variants which are more high risk that are listed here So when it’s listed as red here It means that you that is the high risk snip. But overall, you can see here it says it’s based on eighty four thousand two hundred and five genetic variants. So we’ve just listed the top most relevant twenty, that Michelle has some kind of important variant here But do you see what I mean So this assessment of the risk of depression is based on a huge amount of factors like if we were to list all of those genes, you’d you’d never finished scrolling right if if that makes sense It does Yeah. I understand So take it a step back and just looking at this we’re saying okay. Based on this there’s a…low…
predisposition towards depression. Yes But if it was higher then we’d probably be looking at saying okay So what are the things that we can do in our lives to…balance that and…stop these genes from expressing themselves? Absolutely And if you wanna carry on with that theme as you were so even though I don’t see a high risk for depression I do see higher risk for mood swings, which is more just a mood being up and down Well that doesn’t happen…
So at your worst Michelle I would doubt that you would be someone who would, struggle to get out of bed because you’re so depressed and life is meaningless and all that kind of stuff but you may be a bit up and down sometimes…
According to this. So and and I say a bit I mean you can see here we can’t always eighty third is not bad I mean ninety eighth to ninety nine means that there’s a very strong chance that you will have, fairly strong version of it unless you are really on top of, all the recommendations that we give You can see here it says up to eighty percent of differences in people’s chance of developing bipolar type of symptoms are down to genetic So there’s quite a strong genetic. some things is only ten or twenty percent genetic, like genetics only pay play a vet fairly small role in whether you have that…thing manifest and sometimes genetics play a fairly big role In this case it’s a fairly big role But as I said it’s not like the highest percentile It’s you’re in the top twenty percent something like that. if it were much lower than you’d be in the mid range So I wouldn’t expect this to be severe based on what we’re seeing here. But I don’t know Is the does that resonate at all Is there a little bit of tendency for ups and downs?
We we eat well and we do yoga and play pickleball…
so is that a no…
What was the question? I said is there a little bit of a tendency for ups and downs? Most definitely. Yeah Okay And my mom…
was bipolar. Oh wow Okay Yeah Well so then that’s actually good news that even though it is been passed along to some degree It’s not severe I I guess that you’ve inherited your dad’s tendency as well to not have it to some degree Does that make sense Yeah A lot of sense. Awesome. Okay So that’s good But yeah you can see I mean, there’s a big list here of Let’s see Yeah There’s a we’re evaluating one million nine hundred and eighty…nine eight hundred and fifty seven genes So we’re We’re evaluating a lot of genes to come to conclusion So the fact that this top twenty here are all red doesn’t mean that all million are red It’s just that those are the ones we selected. For people like yourself Michael who do wanna look at specific individual genes you can then look up the individual genes…
And so it gives more information Obviously all about BiPolar then Michelle But for those people who are not as aware who get one of these reports it kind of explains it a little bit and it talks about risk factors, childhood bullying and stress and all that kind of stuff. and then it gives recommendations. And so…you can see the recommendations here…are there’s a couple of things about them So first of all, the order of the recommendations is specifically based on your genetics. So if someone else had this report they might have similar recommendations say Michael did it as well. But he wouldn’t have it in the same order Does that make sense Yeah.
often the ones with the most evidence that will be high up so you might both have psychotherapy up because as you’re probably aware that is very important when you have bipolar that you have a mental health professional who can help you with obviously not the only thing but it’s certainly helpful. so you can see also do you see here it says impacts and evidence So it has little numbers next to it Yeah. So, what that means so impact is how effective is that likely to be based on all the evidence And then evidence is how much evidence is there that it’s effective And so you can see five out of five There’s a lot of evidence that psychotherapy helps With bipolar or just mood swings and there’s it has a high impact Maybe not…
as high as we’d like it to be obviously, but still high. We don’t give drug recommendations. obviously maybe they would have five out of five certain drugs are very helpful people who have bipolar which of course you don’t…
so they recommend psychotherapy. You can see all the did you see the little r’s here with the the in the blue writing So these are all references scientific references You could click on any one of them and it would link to a study code. Okay So for people that are getting these reports they can actually see…what that’s what that recommendation is based on scientifically. Absolutely and so, like I said a lot of people ask me is there something I could show to my medical doctor And I say well, I’ve I’ve dealt with medical doctors where they won’t even listen to what other medical doctors have to say So obviously, it depends on how open they are but If they’re a medical doctor who cares about, evidence but they they have to have facts to back it up Right They don’t wanna hear anything woo woo. I would say in my experience is a genetic insights report is a pretty good an open minded doctor will accept it because of every single thing that we say here is, very highly based on science and very highly cited as well The You can see there’s pretty much no sentence here that that doesn’t have numerous citations.
and so next recommendation avoiding substance abuse, Again it’s probably pretty obvious to anyone who knows about bipolar but it’s an important thing to recommend…
Exercising Just talk about doing yoga I can’t I I try to get her to abuse some substances with me…
just aloe vera Right…
Exercise thirty minutes a day she’s probably up to two hours a day. Wow. Well she’s a yoga teacher So she’s exercising, in the mornings that at it’s funny because she talking on on the report you said it’s probably not difficult for her to get out of bed in the morning. Mhmm No Not even at four AM because in the garage by four thirty AM doing yoga and working out before she goes to work to do more. That’s fantastic Wow.
It’s neat We actually see some real life, correlation between genetics and, very very neat Mhmm. We could go to another report because you’re obviously on top of this but I’ll just skim through them So sleeping for seven plus hours I’ll be when you’re sleep deprived, those symptoms are more likely to show up Relaxation techniques You’re just talking about yoga. sunlight I mean I know a lot of this is I guess common sense stuff but that’s it’s common sense because it’s true Right And it’s helpful and not everyone does this stuff So it’s still very important that we recommend all this stuff because it is what makes the most difference…
some other slightly more less obvious ones I guess like cycling I guess there’s been a bunch of studies done that show that it helps with staving off bipolar specifically morning light…
swimming, walking, you can see there’s not a lot of supplement recommendations here Oh yeah There’s the first one Okay Omega 3 There’s more a lot of healthy lifestyle recommendations which I’d say is true that that is the first thing I’d recommend, a client who wants to help with that probably you say the same Michael. Yeah It it’s neat because we and and she more than me just inherently does these things whether walking or getting sunlight and making vitamin d. It’s it’s part of our lifestyles we should walk for I won’t be some moody. You can walk and I’ll skateboard next to you How’s that? Or cycle.
So there’s so many different topics or categories that we can look at that we could go ten hours or whatever I know we don’t have limited time Is there anything that you’re specifically using today Let’s look at hormonal balance. Awesome Let’s look at that. so is that I I include some obviously all the hormones are in here and I include some other things that I feel are very relevant to hormones like fatigue for instance because that can obviously…
skew hormones And then I include a couple of nutrients as well Like I I put selenium in here because…thyroid hormone is one of the most important hormones And when people have a tendency to need more selenium they often get depleted and then they are more likely to have hypothyroid issues potentially. I did actually see I think I remember Yeah You you you had no indications of hypothyroidism in terms of the reports. So you have decent levels of T-three T-four, high levels even So all of that’s awesome. But I did see a couple of nutrition Ian and yeah underactive thyroid So you don’t have any of the risk factors for thyroid issues. but you do have a couple of nutritional needs which if they were not met could lead to thyroid issues So Yes And just to clarify that doesn’t mean that she’s deficient when you say that But…based on her genetics she would have a tendency to require more of that.
Nutrient. I think is what we’re saying Exactly Yes And obviously if you meet that then you don’t have a problem as you say Michael but yeah that’s another category We can look at nutrient needs Like we have literally for every single nutrient we have a report on there But yeah just a couple of them that are relevant to hormones. So there was increased need for selenium, an increased need for iodine. And also I remember from the nutrients report an increased need for tyrosine. Which is the amino acid that the body makes thyroid hormone out of so the fact…
have you ever had your fire tested or have you had it tested recently Is it I’m assuming it’s healthy I’m just asking. I can’t remember Well I I do recall that when you’ve been tested Everyone said that while you’re, off the charts of perfection like everything is perfect. Okay Great So…So excellent So yeah I I assume that’s because you’re eating a highly nutritious diet And so even though you have an increased need for those few nutrients you’re meeting it Right But for someone who is eating a very nutritionally deficient, diet, which is it’s easy to be depleted in selenium, it’s easy to be depleting iodine if you eat a poor diet then it could develop hyper thyroidism even though you don’t know have a genetic tendency for it Does that make sense A lot of sense.. Okay Awesome But yeah anyway so thyroid is great…
You had an interesting one here So a tendency for lower levels of leptin…leptin some people believe that leptin is like the master controlling, hormone of the body that it influences all the other hormones. Are you one of those people Michael You seem like you? No I’m I’m Okay unfamiliar with it. when I saw the word leptin I was trying to recall what was after twenty five years of being out of school. No worries leptin is the satiety hormone.
So leptin is usually balanced with ghrelin Leptin is the I’ve had enough and then Grelin is the I’m hungry. so leptin is often implicated in people who overeat or struggle to lose weight. And so the fact that you have lower levels of leptin…could indicate the possibility that you would overeat but, for some reason it’s not in here Sorry. But you also actually have lower levels of ghrelin So I’ve never actually seen that combination before You have lower levels of both of them So, I I would imagine that they cancel themselves cancel themselves out I mean would you say you have a tendency to over eat or under eat or are you right in the middle Only because we’re really good cooks. We know how to do we know how to do food and you just can’t stop I do have a tendency to probably eat more than I should when something is too good Okay…
But you’re not eating enough to make you overweight Right That’s quite obvious. No So yeah So that No Definitely not No No Exactly Like I mean I can see. That’s pretty I I I’m guilty of that but not That’s an easy one to evaluate so yeah I would say, you had a couple of things that may genetically that you could have a tendency for increasing weight but you also had a couple of things meant that you didn’t So I I guess that those had had balanced themselves out. so high levels of pregnenolone that’s a good thing. so pregnenolone is right at the top of the cascade of steroid hormones So your body starts with cholesterol, which it turns into pregnenolone It turns pregnenolone into progesterone and cortisol and then it turns, those into DHEA and it turns those into testosterone and estrogen.
and so a lot of people have a problem doing that conversion from cholesterol to pregnenolone which then means that they have two problems They have too much cholesterol, which often the doctor tells them about but The other problem which the doctor often doesn’t tell them about is that they have a lack of those sex hormones. And…
I don’t see…a tendency for low level of any of the sex hormones. Where are the sex hormones? Well they’re not at the top here because then because you don’t have high risk I was gonna say except for the estradiol. Yeah That’s the only one you have a tendency for low levels of. have you had that tested?
Yeah. Is it low? We did it at life extensions. Mhmm. Mhmm It was very low.
Okay. Well here’s the interesting thing This is a little bit controversial but, a few decades ago doctors were giving a lot of women, estrogen right like premarin specifically and there was this idea that estrogen was the female hormone and that it was good. And you mentioned cancer earlier I mean the higher your estrogen estrogen is a major contributor to all kinds of cancer in both men and women and especially women And so…when I come across someone who is estrogen is low especially at and their progesterone is good And again your progesterone shown has a at least a genetic tendency to be good to be oh no Sorry Yeah No Sorry That was low as well My apologies I misremembered that So yeah you have a tendency to have low progesterone as well So long as those two are balanced against each other it’s not such an issue but I would be more concerned with low progesterone of anything. I would personally not be concerned of low estrogen How do you feel about that Michael Well I just wanna reiterate for people listening. This does not mean her levels are low because you would have to test to validate that This means we’d have a predisposition towards lower levels.
That’s what we’re getting out of the genetic testing. Yes I was just commenting because she just said that they were low when she tested them…
Yeah. so…I would not worry about that being low if you tested the estrogen personally…
But I would…be interested in maybe increasing progesterone if that was low with blood testing And I’d be interested in testing it periodically to make sure that it that it wasn’t low. Progesterone is a very important hormone for men and women to be And I wanna I wanna just reiterate just for people listening so they’re not confused. You would mean it would be it would be good to retest. You for that well I’m on not genetic test because the genetic test does not change. Exactly.
Yep. Yeah Yeah Exactly. Progesterone is a very important hormone I I didn’t actually download this but we can download it usually takes a minute. for all kinds of reasons but it’s a very powerful anti stress hormone. It’s the primary anti stress hormone in women So the primary anti stress hormone in men is testosterone…
It progesterone lowers cortisol and it stimulates GABA And and so if you’re if you’re feeling low stress already then great. I wouldn’t worry about progesterone even if it is low in a blood test. But if you did want to, lower stress and your progesterone is low, It’s something you can maybe look at with a doctor who specializes in it But obviously as I say I’m not commenting on what you should do about it I’m just saying there is that genetic tendency as you’re interested in hormones that would be the one that I would be most…keen to test to validate. Yeah Yeah This is really neat because what we have is we have a test that kinda tells us what we should test for…
because…You could go around It could be very expensive right Like doing these blood tests can be very expensive and they can take a long time to get results people don’t want it to get blood drawn so yeah it helps to narrow it down. That’s pretty cool I’m I’m I’m starting to see it I’m I wasn’t sure why we did this test to begin with but now I’m understanding. Awesome. The other one that you have a tendency to be low is growth hormone. This is not again not necessarily a bad thing just like I said with estrogen And yes like, it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily low but it means it could be if you test for it I don’t know if I would spend the money to bother testing to see if it’s low though.
The some of the main benefits of growth hormone and reason that people like it to be high, is because when your growth hormone is high your body tends to put on muscle but shed fat That’s usually why people boost their growth hormone. As you already have good muscle and low fat. I wouldn’t personally worry about it and I wouldn’t bother testing it. high growth hormone levels are also potentially a a bad thing because…
growth hormone, stimulates all kinds of growth including bad growth that you don’t want like tumors and stuff like that So Having a genetic tendency to have low growth hormone is not necessarily actually a bad thing at all So even though we’ve put it as red there as lower levels…
I I would add that nuance with both of those that they’re not necessarily a bad thing, if that makes sense. Yeah. What about the one next to it The dopamine one? yeah So this is actually a gene let’s download that one and we’ll look at that one. So this is this means that you have a tendancy to actually let’s look at the report because I just wanted to comment on this one as well quickly this DHT.
So DHT is the primary androgenic hormone. And androgen means male, sexual hormonal traits And so again having low levels of that as a woman is not a bad thing at all high levels of DHT Italy to more facial hair and stuff like that So yeah I I…
So almost every hormone that we’ve talked about here that you have a tendency to be low, I actually personally wouldn’t be concerned about I also wouldn’t be concerned about high pregnenolone. and I would only be concerned about lower levels of leptin if it led to weight gain which it doesn’t seem to in your case So, the only one that I would wanna test for like I said, would be the progesterone because progesterone is so important to have reduced stress. and speaking of stress yeah let’s talk about this one but I think I have another one to look at first One second…
Yeah Dopamine…
Let’s have a look at the dopamine one while we wait for that to load So are you familiar with dopamine? Yes. Awesome Okay. So dopamine is just for the viewers is the one of the primary feel good neurochemicals and it’s the thing that gives you motivation…
and so yeah you do have a little bit of a tenant see for lower dopamine, but I think this is actually balanced out by the other one that we’re gonna look at in a minute…
So…the the potential downside of that is that you will do things to stimulate dopamine So people who have low dopamine and not necessarily people who are unmotivated but often they will do things to stimulate dopamine more than people have naturally hide dopamine So they’re more likely to engage in addictive behaviors, which could be bad addictions, but it could also be positive addictions So an example of a positive dopamine thing is goal setting. Right? Or achievements hitting sales target hitting whatever any kind of goal Right But one thing about it is that there’s a bit of a tendency towards more of an addictive personality so a bit less easy going I don’t know if you could relate to that at all I can. Okay. So again not necessarily bad thing from a, you being a successful person point of view but it can mean that it’s a little bit more difficult to relax…
And so yeah if we go back to the one you asked about…
So this is a particular gene so there’s M A O A and M A O B Some people have heard of M A O because…
There are a there’s a class of drugs called MAO inhibitors. I don’t know if you’ve heard of those before…
That’s quite a more druggy culture which you guys aren’t part of. People who do Ayahuasca and stuff like that is they’re into MAO inhibitors. Anyway. So likely higher MAOB activity…
Yeah Okay. So again this does indicate a little a tendency to break down So basically this is a gene Right? which relates to an enzyme. And so what enzymes do is they perform chemical processes of transforming one thing into another thing…And so this particular gene this particular enzyme, takes, all the catecholamines, which is dopamine adrenaline and noradrenaline, and serotonin, and it converts them into like the next thing It breaks them down. And so when you have higher MAOB activity as you do, It just means that you’re breaking those…feel good but also stress chemicals down more quickly.
And so, that indicates sometimes and I don’t think you had a report that indicates it but it can indicate a little bit of a tendency to ADD kind of thing, like having, problems…focusing Now obviously that can be balanced out by other things There’s only one gene It’s not a full report. but yeah I don’t know Does that is that accurate at all Or…
Did this scream in there about what it’s like…
No It all makes a lot of sense. And I’m I’m actually glad he’s here and you’re reading this. Mhmm Because hopefully it helps him maybe understand…
who I am a little bit more. That’s such a great point I and I I talk about that on interviews a lot and I think sometimes people don’t get it But I actually think I I’ve I’ve been in the personal development field for years as I know that you two also are and self improvement all that kind of thing But for me the most…
empowering and profound aspect of all this is actually what you just said Michelle It’s less about how can I find out my weak spots and my strengths and optimize them? Although that’s great I love that But the very best thing is to do it with other people I’ve done it with my friends my wife my business partners and go, Oh that’s why they’re like that and to help them understand why I like this And then just just to have that just to have that compassion for each other that Yeah They’re fundamentally different and that’s okay. And then, rather than And and even for yourself right I’ve been frustrated myself. Yeah It feels like inside not validation, but I almost feel better in a weird way about sometimes I don’t get things on the computer and I…my attention span on the computer is…it’s very short. Mhmm And his his brain is like like that when it comes to the computer.
So for me, this makes sense Hopefully he can be a little more patient…
in those areas…
Yeah Absolutely That makes sense Well let me go to the brain category then as we’re talking about that Yeah. Let’s see if that’s interesting. right gives us anything interesting. oh yeah I did download this one already More likely to be dyslexia so that could also relate to what you just said? Yeah.
Well you’re not you don’t really ever show that. You might have a predisposition towards it but…
You don’t see it. Okay Fair enough And as you say I’m pretty sure that the attention one you actually didn’t have it So I…
Yeah So you don’t have a strong tendency towards ADD but there’s just a little bit of the potential of that with the combination of the low dopamine report the high MAOB report. so I wouldn’t say that it’s strong but I would say it’s, it’s there. I don’t yeah I mean some of the like headaches I put that under brain health because obviously it’s technically usually the brain headache and mono neuropathy that’s type of nerve pain that’s relatively rare You would know it if you had that, I put hypoglycemia in here because a lot of the time when people have problems concentrating and stuff like that it’s actually because they have low blood sugar. so we could have a look at this one. Is that something you can relate to hypoglycemia Is that something that you’re Yeah I’ve heard that throughout my whole life…Okay.
from different doctors. Okay. and so different people give different advice for how to deal with that which I won’t…go into but some people say you should eat regularly right every two to three hours Some people say to do the opposite and do intermittent fasting so different people give different advice But, whatever works to balance blood sugar also is really helpful for mood and focus and concentration all the things that we’ve talked about so far If your blood sugar is stable your energy stable generally your ability to concentrate is also stable…
Actually that may be a bigger factor…towards, be being able to think clearly and and feeling as emotional stable as possible. let’s see So as I said different people have different opinions about to deal with it Let’s see what genetics say. rather than me giving my opinion…
So first of all you have it here at the top sixteen percent. That’s fairly high. And as it says they’re up to sixty five percent of differences is due to genetics So, it’s a it’s a fairly strong factor here. the…meaning you may have eaten great your whole life Right Maybe you never abuse sugar or anything like that And you still I love sugar. Okay.
Well I’m just saying hypothetically. I mean funnily enough you say I love sugar Where was it…
It’s one of the first ones I saw here Sugar cravings…
Yeah More likely to have sugar cravings as well So again you can even blame your genes for that…
loving, not everyone has a sweet tooth Right Some people prefer savory I consider myself one of those people but yes Yeah Yeah Yeah But some people do love sweet foods. And so obviously that’s not a problem from the perspective of weight gain for you but it may be a bit more in the area of hypoglycemia potentially like keeping your energy stable and balanced. just look we can just look at that for a second It actually gives some kind of easy recommendations Gymnema is one of them a herb. That’s a vitamin. that’s a herb.
Oh an herb. That helps to…
let’s see. This it’s call it’s known as it’s known in Iruvedic medicine as the destroyer of sugar because it temporarily reduces the taste of sugar and the tongue Well that’s interesting…
So it could actually…reduce the effectiveness of, sugar at being desirable to you. it also has been used for yeah blood sugar balance So that might be a good herb for you especially as it’s number one on this here despite not being super high impact or evidence So that’s one that you may wanna try. and then it gives prunes as well And then yeah most recommendations here are very little impacted evidence I wouldn’t pay too much attention to them but that then that Gymnema is probably the only one I’d pay attention to there your number one recommendation. there’s something just to try. Yeah I think it’s a pretty cheap and easily available herb I like how you showed that also how well as far as what to do of this shows low evidence of impact versus some of the others that have higher evidence of impact with all the references And…
Yeah And they still have references but once they have such low evidence I tend to not focus on them too much personally They’re just there for people who wanna do everything…
So recommendations for hypoglycemia let yeah Let’s see. So limit alcohol intake…
up to one drink a day I imagine you’re already following that Yeah I don’t even drink every day for every week Hardly ever Yeah Hardly ever. But when I do I do it I know…
I make up for lost time…
You enjoy watching other people drink more It’s not like when we watched the video of the two girls falling down the stairs…yesterday…
OhBoy. And exercise is the other big recommendation that it gives you here So it doesn’t actually give you dietary recommendations the other big one that it gives is optimizing exercise…
and I think this is, yeah because of the a lot of the time it’s insulin resistance is a big factor and exercise helps to reduce that So I think that was probably why there’s that recommendation there. So Elwin one of the things that you said in looking as I’m looking at this page here you you said the reason why I put this one here or something like that. is this a report that you arranged or is it just based on when you…
Well when when someone orders the test that we ordered and we gave you I think our username and password, when you log in and scroll up to the top there there’s a drop down window. Mhmm. Is that what determines when you choose these things What’s on this page or…where there are certain…reports that were already there that…might have been yeah What what’s someone getting when when someone gets the test what are they gonna see when they first log in. Sure Yeah So this is what you would see And I’ve just gone back to browse by category So this There’s no category there So there’s literally if you just carry on scrolling it’d be like over five hundred reports, and they’re not in a random order but They’re an order You see here it says sort by risk And then there’s a little so they’re, sorted by risk score because there’s so many in there at jumbled there’s nutrients in there and there’s genes and there’s risk scores and there’s hormones and like sometimes it’s a bit overwhelming to people So I usually recommend that they do it by category like we were doing like depending on what you’re interested in okay You’re interested in brain health You’re interested in hormones, emotional well-being is a popular one digestion nutrient needs a popular one You can…
for people who don’t have any real health issues you can just see what nutrients you have genetically your tendency to need more of. That’s why I sorted that way In terms of why I did beforehand this preparation Michael just to explain that do you see some of them they say view and some of them say download? Got it. So when That means that the ones you already downloaded them Got it Yeah I already generated them because it uses up so much processing power as you see it like just one report is out evaluating over a million genes So they’re not all pre generated. Because the vast majority of people don’t go through all five hundred reports So it just says computer processing power honestly.
so anything that you’re interested in you click on it Like if you wanted to know about I don’t know isoleucine you click on it and it takes about a minute and then it downloads And then from then on you don’t have to download it again You can just click on view and open it In a new window. So yeah that’s that’s the only preparation I did I have no say in any of the content or any of the recommendations all of auto generated by AI based on the work of a team of several dozen scientists, and medical professionals don’t have any say in that literally all I did is generate it. this looks so easy At first it was a little overwhelming because there is so much information available there and it would take a lifetime to go through. But to be able I thought about that but it would take a long time. But to be able to just arrange by risk and then drop down and look at the areas that we’re more interested in.
I like it That’s this is really neat Yeah I thought it was at first a little hard to read. But then once I started looking at it and understanding how it worked, it was it was really kind of easy. To read And then the recommendations was my favorite part. Awesome Are you ready to look at it That’s awesome Yeah I had a real good look at it alright. Well believe it or not this is a super simplified version of the original operating system I had that same feeling that you did Michael my my god this is good but my god it’s complicated So this is my attempt to simplify it as much as possible.
But it’s still as you say pretty complex. One of the other things to bear in mind is you guys got the limitless package which is every report which is over five hundred. but a lot of people they may only go for a collection like just the hormonal balance or just the nutrient needs And so then they wouldn’t see all these other ones They’d only see the one that they purchased, which does make it substantially less overwhelming. but a lot of people in the end have I’ve noticed more people than I expected have gone for the limitless and they do want absolutely everything, which I do understand because…
then you can just kind of fish through right and and see what is of most interest to you Well if if we could and maybe you can open up another tab and show the shop page where we had purchased that limitless package. Yeah Sure…
so FeelYounger.net Is the site yeah So this is…the site where the limitless package is sold but you can see also in this drop down menu on the genetic insights, anti aging blood sugar brain health cardiovascular and you can see that those correlate with the categories here Right So people can just get one of those categories rather than all of them Okay And those are substantially cheaper as well. My two goals of this were to take this incredible information. And number one, simplify it as I said but number two also make it much more affordable. so for people who just wanna know about how they can lose weight or or bring up or something like that It’s it’s fifty sixty dollars Some of them are even less than that. Let but let’s look at this if you can go back to that page for a second there and see where it says products per page ten.
We drop that down and and make it like so we can see all of them. Mhmm And is there a way to sort…
by price…
probably. Let’s see. Yes High to low or low to high…
So it’s really not that expensive When you’re looking at this from my perspective, why not have access why not get them all And have access to all of them because you’re right I could get in for sixty five dollars just looking at this one little profile but for not much more we have access to literally everything. I want I want the people that are listening this to understand why we would pay more and get them all and even things we might never look at but we haven’t because they’re unchanging and they’re forever. So…And just to explain that that might seem manipulative like we’re trying to get to buy that And I guess there’s a element of that but the truth is we actually pay a similar amount whether people buy any of them it’s not it’s…even though people are getting what twenty times as much with the all access as one of these, it it doesn’t cost us twenty times as much it costs us about three times as much which is why we priced it that way Now there’s also a a testing kit though to get with that. Yeah So on that original page that you showed us the the sorry that I showed you the all access page On that one it’s kind of made very clear You can either If you need a DNA kit you can buy one with And if you don’t need one because you’ve done twenty three in me or ancestry and all those things before and you can get it without. If you’re getting any of those collections because of the way the Shopify pages work we weren’t able to do it that way every time but If someone decides to buy one like these anti aging ones, and then they go to check out, then it’ll just ask them Do you need a DNA kit?
And it explains it’s only needed if you don’t have access to your own DNA file from another service So we try to make it as as simple as possible for people to…
work it out. Yeah So, that makes perfect sense And it’s compared to what you could be spending on blood testing and doctors visits, it seems like this can really focus you and say okay. This is where I should be now getting blood tested so…
Absolutely i’m having to agree with you Michael I hundred percent thank you I hundred percent agree with you that people still need to do a test in a lot of cases I mean Even with the nutrients if we just look at that one for a second, in some cases like for instance with vitamin A personally would not encourage anyone to have extra vitamin A because our genetic test said that a person had increased need because of course it is possible to have too much Vitamin A Right And we wouldn’t ever want to be responsible for someone having too much of a nutrient. in some cases though like and same with ID iodine It’s very easy to have too much iodine. In some cases like with vitamin C or some of the amino acids like tyrosine, If people have those there’s really no risk in having more And so in that case because it’s quite expensive to test I wouldn’t bother testing it I would just increase it and see if you feel better. Although if you can test it’s always ideal I like like a neutral valve test where it tests all of the nutrients and all the amino acids but it’s quite expensive so, and so I take that on a case by case basis and it’s…
yeah it’s the same for a lot of these things It it kind of depends on what it is And because it’s hard for people to know that unless they’re as immersed in this kind of stuff as you and I Michael that’s why I’m creating, I mean the process of creating kind of walk through videos for each of the categories for people So it kind of guides them through that So it’s like having a consultation with me but not like it’s free but it’s like a video that guides them through it But I’m still in the process of creating those It’s kind of It’s a lot. Yeah Yeah And I wanna thank you for the time that you’re spending with us here. but that consultation that you mentioned is another that people have when they get this test that you would actually spend time with them walking them through their results Correct? Absolutely Yeah. Yeah If they’re interested in that as I said I wanna make it as cheap and affordable for people as possible so it’s certainly not required.
everyone can do what as as you did Michelle before this call they can look for it themselves and but if they would like me to walk them through it I’m happy to. Alright. I like it Yeah I love it…
Elwin is there is there anything that you wish we had asked or that you think, people listening to this should know about…
No I’ve I think it’s been fun I just wish that we had more time to go through it Maybe we’ll do a part two someday because as you it’s just the tip of the iceberg Right I mean I don’t know how much time you spent going through it so far Michelle but…I I’ve spent many many many hours I find it fascinating. I just thank you for the opportunity of sharing it with your people Yeah And I I feel like now we have the the tools that know how the understanding to be able to go through those reports Yeah. And and make sense of it So to me this time was so beneficial and I think it will be to other people that are getting the testing and wanna be able to look through it and understand what they’re looking at So this is great Thank you Yeah Thank you so much. My pleasure…
Alright for those listening we will…put links to the site below the video on YouTube below the blog posts on the bottom in the resources section on the bottom of the, podcast page. look in the resources You can get connected to Elwin through that through to his websites GeneticInsights.co And FeelYounger.net. Great. Alright Elwin Thank you so much Thanks Elwin. Thank you…
Yeah I’d like to end with a positive note and this is a really cool one So likely higher oxytocin level…So why this matters is because oxytocin is your, it was the love hormone. So it means that whatever else you’ve got going on you’re…I would expect that you are a very a kind loving person and probably a nurturing kind of person. and that’s in your genes So that’s a nice thing to to know about yourself. I would say Yeah. Would you agree with that I would agree with that.
Excellent Yeah And so it’s not all negative the other thing I wanna say I mean often we start with the high risk stuff because, that’s where there’s area for improvement and that’s what most people want They they have problems they want help, but actually there’s equally you can go through and look at all the low risk stuff and go look at all the the wonderful things that all the gifts that you have and I think that’s really important too to focus on all the gifts that god or the universal whatever you wanna call it has given you too…
Yeah And it’s funny because as you say this that’s that would balance some of the other risk…Yeah. so it’s neat to see. I think it absolutely does Yeah…
Great Look for the personality report. Okay This act this actually tells you your level of like whether you’re extroverted or not whether you’re agreeable or not whether you’re conscientious or not, I expect conscientious I would guess given that your work schedule…