🎙️ Full Transcript – Episode 133

The “No Options” Mindset with Ty Gipson

My dad was kind of dust off and keep going. Right. And that’s really the mindset that I was raised up,

and I’m very thankful. At the time, I didn’t like it, you know, it was one of those deals, like, really

do they really care, you know, that was the question. But it really helped develop and prepare me for what I went through.

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This is the Dr. Haley Show podcast. I’m Dr. Michael Haley, your show host. And today’s podcast. Well, it’s not our typical health radical show where we learn the latest and greatest bio hacks for optimal health and longevity. My guest is a radical in a different way that brings a unique viewpoint on resilience, health, and entrepreneurship. We’ll be discussing a no options mindset that can be applied to a lot of areas in our life, not just overcoming health challenges.

Ty Gipson’s experience is pretty extensive, including navigating health challenges that I suspect many of us probably may have just thrown in the towel surrendered to. But he developed a three step mindset approach to tackling not just life threatening challenges, but also the everyday

challenges that

just pop up continuously in our lives. Hi, Ty Hey, doc. Thank you for having me, man.

I’m excited to be here. Oh, man. And I’m excited about this too. You know, I’ve seen you speak in various platforms you’re on YouTube, and I know you’ve done some, local engagements and you’ve traveled and done some big events. And I heard enough of your story

where I said, wow, I want to talk to this guy.

And I know that you have some mindset principles that are similar to things I’ve applied in my own life, only I think you maybe took them next level because you had to. And that’s why this interests me so much, because I want to go next level. I don’t want to. I want to learn from your experience, though. I don’t want to have the same experience you did.

Yeah. For sure. You know, and again,

you’re right. I don’t fit your typical

your,

guest

and I appreciate you willing

to visit with me because I’m excited about what’s going on, you know,

we talk about the power of our mind. You know, our mindset is really powerful.

and that’s kind of where you mentioned my adversity that I’ve been through and how I’ve,

learned to apply this three step mindset. And it’s been

an interesting road for me. But, you know,

as we talk about

the power of

our mind is incredible. Yeah.

And, I’m just excited, to be able to

talk to your audience about it a little bit because

I’m really excited about it. In

the way that, you know, I’ve been through a lot as a juvenile diabetic. Hang on before. Before we get into that. Yeah. Because I want to tie one thing together

where this really fits in with my podcast here.

And, yeah, it’s maybe even outside of health challenges and things. I always like

to, ask my guests about the power words that were either spoken into their life or a principle that they’ve applied to their life. And I

think this really does fit in first. Okay. I think of the movie Apollo 13, and these were always words that I grabbed on to, and although they were spoken in the movie, it wasn’t exactly spoken this way at

You know, Command Central when they’re trying to bring Apollo 13 back to Earth. But the actor that played the guy that was in charge of everything said failure is not an option. And to me, I’ve always kind of live that way. And

whenever I have a challenge, I always looked at it as, way to maybe figure something new out.

And, you know, if I was listing a bunch of options to get to the goal, failure wasn’t one of them. And failure is not an option is something I kind of grabbed on to an applied to a lot of areas of my life. What power words may have been spoken into your life? Maybe at an early age, maybe as an adult?

Or what principles have you applied

that shaped your three step approach? Maybe.

Well growing up

really was taught that no one really wants to hear my problems, right?

I mean, no one wants to hear me complain

and as bad as that sounds, there’s really what helped me develop this.

I think that’s exactly what helped me through my adversity. But as a young child, I just we didn’t have options, you know what I mean? My dad was always one of these kind of, growing up in Southeast Texas, I was one that said, you know, my dad was kind of dust off and keep going.

Right. And

that’s really the mindset that I was raised up,

just figure it out. And, that’s really where it came from.

and I’m very thankful. At the time, I didn’t like it, you know, it was one of those deals, like,

do they really care, you know, that was the question.

But

it really helped develop and prepare me for what I went through. And then, as I started looking back at my story and how things happened and

where did the turning point happen? Multiple times in my life, you know, I had to look at it. I really didn’t have an option. I didn’t have an option whether to go into a surgical procedure that I had a 50/50 shot of survival.

I mean, I didn’t have a choice, right? I, my wife and I, when we chose

to open a business and we both left corporate world and then, 08 hit with this

financial, you know,

downfall. We didn’t really have an option to fail. And that’s kind of the approach we’ve taken over,

and I look back over my life and those are things that just kept coming back in place.

But I really believe, to answer your question, as a child, the no options, my dad was,

was one to just said, you know, let’s push through, let’s figure it out. And I’m really thankful that they did that. Yeah, yeah, that is awesome. Leading up to this podcast, it just so happens that we’ve had a few in the past month or so that we’re overcoming type two diabetes, and in that, we’ve discussed how devastating diabetes can be because inflammation, well, it causes inflammation.

And inflammation is kind of the foundation for every other disease and health challenge. You can have. For sure. You, a more difficult, much more difficult situation with type one diabetes, possibly. You can offer a little explanation of the difference between type one and type two, and then how that has affected you and some of the health challenges you have been through.

Yeah, as a type one, obviously you’re insulin dependent, right? I mean, it’s been a

juvenile diabetic, as I mentioned, I was one when I was eight. But the difference,

it’s

as a type one. It’s,

again insulin dependent. Type two is an onset where,

it can be controlled

through your diet.

Exercise. I’m not saying type one can’t be,

it helps to control with your diet. Obviously, our diet is very important. in type one and type two, but type two can absolutely be controlled through. Yeah. Your food and even completely reverse type two can be reversed absolute type one. We

haven’t figured that out yet.

That’s correct. That is absolutely. Yeah. Type two completely can be flipped. Type one right now like as you said, we’re still and I think there’s a lot of hope there that

we can still do some things through type one. And, but I

truly believe right now

it’s insulin dependent.

Yep. Yeah. I agree. And you know, myself being a very anti medicine guy, it’s anti medicine in the sense that use it where you need it. You know

not to

mask symptoms and never get to the root of the problem. But sometimes you have to manage situations because the effects of diabetes can be devastating and they are devastating.

And you experience some of it and there was really nothing you can do about it. How did diabetes affect your health and what did you have to do about it? You know, it going back to kind of what you said,

we tried to avoid medicine as much as we could.

Right. And

through other ways of taking care of ourselves, through,

our diets and exercise. But you’re right.

once, I was a juvenile diabetic, I didn’t really have an options. Right?

This was in the 70s, right? So there was a

lot less technologies in the late 70s, when I was diagnosed with it.

So,

when I was diagnosed at the age of eight,

I was told I had to go on insulin that.

as I mentioned, that we never really even took, you know, any kind of, Tylenol or any of that. I mean, that was not even part of our family, you know, we just didn’t do it.

So this was a big eye opener to us and my family that I was having to go on to, as a diabetic and then be taking shots.

So, as eight, I was put on shots, renal diabetic though I was my blood sugars

were up and down

so I battled that a lot as a kid, not understanding it right as an eight year old and wonder why I felt so bad and,

had to completely

change my diet, which was really not a bad thing. For our whole family. I mean, we learned a lot about diet that we never had really had to, but I continued to have these health problems all the way till I was ten. I was

at Texas Children’s

and Houston,

on the research floor.

Which

you probably remember, David, the bubble boy

he was born with, challenges that

he had no immune system, which was really cool. I was stationed next to him

at Texas Children’s. So I got to meet him and

learn a lot about him

and all of that.

But, through that,

I was being doing research on an insulin pump. Insulin pumps were being something that

they’ve had some not really work. But I was put on an insulin pump that was used for chemotherapy. So they put an insulin

in a syringe pump.

And

they researched me,

to watch how

my body would handle taking the insulin in certain doses throughout the

day versus one shot here and one shot there. It was slowly giving me insulin throughout the day. So they tried to manage me through that, which was really an interesting process. Which then later became truly insulin pumps.

And so

my life was as a ten year old was really interesting as put being put on these pumps. I came home with a pump and it kept this almost 2 pounds, 1.9oz. It was a brick, that I wore basically on the side of

my belt

to control my diabetes.

and to this day now I wear a small insulin pump that’s about six ounces versus a pound, nine ounces.

So,

I got to see insulin pumps go through the different phases

so I’ve

been a diabetic.

Research for years now in that, it didn’t fix your problems. No. No, absolutely. I mean, it was as you talked about it, it’s it was masking a lot of challenges.

Right.

it did not solve my problems.

I battled with diabetes all those years, even through my college days and trying to, figure that out. Right. That was a big challenge. And then,

let’s fast forward at the age of 30, Dr. Haley my

kidney started failing.

I went to the doctor just feeling horrible. I mean, I couldn’t hardly, keep up. I mean, as you know, with kidney failure, it’s, I didn’t know at the time that that’s what it was, but I just was struggling

my energy level, my

focus. Everything was just. I had lost all this. And so I went in and, to the doctor and did a lot of

lab work.

And come to find out, my kidneys are failing And, at the time, I had such brutal diabetes. And the doctor was like, here’s the deal Ty he said, you know, you’ve got such brittle diabetes.

you need a kidney. But if we do a kidney transplant,

you’ve got such brittle that

we’ll just go through kidneys.

He’s so fast. He said, but because of your brittle diabetes, he says. But here’s the deal. They are doing, research right now at the University of Maryland, doing a dual transplant, which is a kidney, pancreas transplant. At the same time. And he says, I really think you’re a good candidate for this

if you would consider this.

And I said, absolutely. I mean, it’s kind of goes back to that. No options.

where

I talked about I ran into a couple of times where, you know, I didn’t really have options. I mean,

I definitely couldn’t operate feeling this way So before we go any further, before we go any further on this.

Yeah. Because now you’re considering kidney, you’re considering a new pancreas. Major surgery. Probably pretty dangerous.

are you living with a certain faith that kind of supported you through this, where

you’re okay with the outcome if you don’t make it or how do you deal with that? Yeah. And that’s

kind of, you know,

where my no options approach can mindset came in.

But yes,

Christian faith and

I’m a big believer that you know

it’s really not my plan. Right.

I got to put my,

faith in

whatever’s going to happen. But at the same time

I had to really, kind of look myself in the mirror and go is, you know what?

What do you do, right? I mean, I had to just,

really dive deep and

go,

is this what I need to do? Because really, at the time, it was like,

here was the problem that was is the at the time, the surgery, the surgical had all we did four of them and

two of them had not survived.

Yeah. Okay. So you’re literally talking about a 50/50 chance, survival here now, and you’re how old at this time? I’m 55 right now. Yes. No, no, I’m. I’m sorry. At the time of the third surgery. I’m 30. I’m sorry. 30 years old. Okay. Heard it. Yeah. And I’m curious because. And I’m going to go back to the faith, thing.

I mean, at 30, you know, you haven’t lived your life yet. You got a lot of things. You still want to experience

And I’m trying to imagine what it would be like because myself also a believer. But we kind of hold on to this life. And, you know, we

are confident we have our affairs in order.

We’re okay with God and it’s better to be there with him. But we’re still holding on to what we have here. For some reason.

are you having that struggle? Absolutely. I was struggling, you know,

at the time. I mean, think about this. I had a six year old daughter that I’m looking in the eyes and going, you know, wow.

I mean, how is this going to, you know, what does this look like? Right? I mean, it was a it was a huge, really just a gut check for me

it really made me think about

Am I doing the right things? So, I mean, like you said, I mean,

I built

my faith, but

also what,

I have here

on this earth with my daughters, and my family.

If this doesn’t work, am I really ready? I mean, at 30, I mean,

I felt like I had a lot to live for, and I had a lot of the things I wanted to achieve.

even in my career,

in my life, there was a lot of things I wanted to do and I just

wasn’t ready to not be able to do that, you know, because in my mind, again, in my mind, I was

okay, I just need to get through this hurdle.

In fact, I asked the doctor, I said, how long is this going to take? Because

I got things I need to do. And he kind of say You go, you need to slow down minute.

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So at your early 30s, I mean,

do you even know what your purpose in life is yet. No, no. You know, like you said, no,

I was still just trying to figure out,

how to make it right.

I mean, really, I mean, how to get through it, how to,

support my family, how to,

climb that corporate ladder that I was chasing at that time and, and, so there was a lot of, a lot of things going on in my mind that

just haven’t quite got, you know, I was too young to even realize

what I was dealing with.

You know, there’s a scripture that comes to mind. It’s, Hebrews 11 one, I believe, and it says faith is the substance of things hoped for. The evidence of things not seen. And I’ve always kind of seen that, as you know, we have

a belief, a faith, and the substance is really our actions that demonstrate how much we believe and how much we’re willing to go through something.

And it seems at that point in your life,

your no options is kind of saying, okay, Ty

you have faith. Show me. Let’s walk through it. Prove it. You know, I it seems to me your choice was actually the substance of your faith. The evidence. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean,

It’s really interesting to look back at that moment and that those that time I was going through it and

how I dealt with it. And that’s kind of where this all came out. But at the time, I mean, when you’re in it,

I was in a different mindset.

You know, but it was, it was a very interesting time.

but really, I didn’t even look at it as I just kind of said, okay, let’s put the gloves on. Let’s go. I mean, I was ready to fight it, right?

I was ready to take it on. I didn’t know what I was taking on, but I was ready to go.

I like the image. Put on the gloves. Let’s go. I, you know, I got a little rocky thing happening to me. I’m hearing the theme music in the background. Yeah, but I did, I like and I think

that was the mindset. And that’s where looking back in, I keep going to give back to these at this point.

Now looking at them going, the power of the mind was so strong. And thank God, you know, and it kind of

let’s go back to the way I was raised, right? I mean, just push through, figure it out. And I really think that prepared me,

to have the mindset.

but I truly give it all of my faith for being able to get me through it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s huge. That’s huge. So, you had a lot of experiences with the health challenges, including now, I guess your first surgery

was the dual organ transplant, right. How did that go? It went really good. It was again at the University of Maryland, hospital there. And it went amazing. Doctor Steven Bartlett, was my doctor who,

was doing the research

on the dual transplant.

And so it went really well. I mean, it was, an

amazing process, a story.

so what had happened was

I had to find a donor that matched me to get the kidney, and then I had to be put on list to receive a deceased donor’s pancreas. Because

someone has to donate their organs to receive

their pancreas.

So that process went on. And my mother at the time, was 60 yeah. Making sense of it. You know, people have extra kidneys, but no one has an extra pancreas. Correct? Absolutely. And that’s so you. So this is major because not only is it dual transplant, but they’re coming from different sources. And it all has to be perfect and everything.

You know there’s such a really deep dive into making sure everything matches correctly in the, so much more than just a blood type. They have so much more to that. But, but so we

started going through that process to first to find me a kidney. Right. Something someone that would match,

So we started the process. And at the time my mom was 60 and she said, Ty, if I can donate, if they say my,

kidney matches, that’s my role. I feel like as your mother, you know, God gave me two kidneys and,

that’s my role. So my mom stepped in and said, I want to donate

my kidney, which was absolutely amazing.

So that had sent her through all the testing right at this time, we had to go through a lot of testing. So up in Baltimore, we went through the testing, she came out, and she was a great match. She was a perfect match for me. So now we’ve got it set up. We got everything lined up.

Now we’re on the list to receive a donated pancreas. So that went on for about eight months of waiting. Right. We’re waiting. We’re now in Texas. The hospital that we’re doing the surgery is in Baltimore, Maryland. So there’s obviously some logistics things that we had to work out, which was just being prepared with the flights and getting everything ready.

So

we were ready on our end, but we still had to wait on this,

organ to receive a pancreas. So, a seven months. And the good thing is,

I push through every day, and I never stopped. Working, which was kind of one of my goals. I was like, I don’t want to just lay here.

It was absolutely. A huge challenge to get up every day just because your strength level.

you feel horrible. But

I just I wanted to keep moving, so I would go in, and, I would soon, as I get home in the evenings, by 6:00, I had to go to bed just to try to make it through the night, to be able to get up the next morning and do it over again.

So,

it was a really tough time, and it was getting really hard. So over those six months, I pushed through. And here’s the interesting piece, though, is the week before I got my call,

I finally went to the doctor, said, I don’t know that I can go anymore, which now was going to prepare me for dialysis.

so that was on like a Wednesday. I went in so that next Sunday, which was Super Bowl Sunday, I get a call from Baltimore, Maryland, it’s midnight, the phone rings, and I knew the number. I knew the number from because I had obviously, I was talking weekly with them and doing tests and testing and stuff.

They call me at midnight and, that phone rings and immediately

I got extremely nervous. And they said, hey Ty

we may have a match.

we have a pancreas

that matches you that

were preparing, procurement. And they’re looking at it looks like it’s going to be a perfect match for you.

And she says, you know, time as you’re saying these things. I couldn’t possibly imagine what you were going through at that time. But in just hearing it right now, I’m on the edge of my seat thinking, my goodness, this is huge. So much has to happen in such perfect timing. At this point, I’m on the edge of my seat and thinking, this is a miracle.

Yeah, it really is. I mean, and

that’s what’s amazing about this story

I look back and go, how did even had all this happen?

it’s just like the movies though. And, I got the call.

they said, get prepared. We got a couple more things to make sure that it’s right.

But as soon as we get that final say, I need you guys

to get on a plane and get here. So they call me back, and I call my mother.

Remember, I’m receiving her kidney. She doesn’t live close to me, so I call her. She doesn’t answer, and I’m,

She has never not answer her phone the whole time. But she doesn’t answer the phone, and I’m going, oh, gosh, you know

That’s my kidney. I’ve got to get her. I’ve got to get her. She is a big part of this plan. Which again, just added to the nerve part of it. But we got Ahold of her

and within a probably the next two hours, we all, we took off.

Right? So we get to Baltimore and it’s, again, it’s like the movies, wherever you rush and everybody’s going, and then you get there and you wait because

you know, obviously paperwork and prepping you, getting you ready. And so it was just a long deal But I did. Once we got there, I went into surgery.

It was a 16 hour surgery. And

in

the surgical room

it was me.

a team. It was preparing

the, pancreas. And then my mother was in this other area getting preparing to receive our kidney.

So, 16 hours later,

I received her kidney and the pancreas. And the amazing thing is

This is what’s really cool. The doctor said when he was hooking up, when he was actually trying to sew my mother’s pancreas, and it started working, which caused a little bit of a challenge. But a lot of times, pancreas is don’t I mean, kidneys don’t always work, right when you’re putting when they, they sometimes take sometimes days, weeks to actually start working.

But hers started working immediately, which was a blessing. Right.

and then I got

the pancreas

from the donor.

and I came out of surgery and

it was rough. Right.

but when I woke up, my mother was sitting in a wheelchair beside me.

she was right there beside me, which was amazing that she

was already able to do that.

But, I’ll tell you, a 16 hour surgery and, all of that, I, they were asking me how I felt, and

I said, you know,

not good right now, but

then I started getting all taking all these meds because

once you have a transplant I was taking when I came out of that surgery, after a month of that, I was taking 60 pills a day.

Wow. As you know, that’s like I mean, gone from somebody that never really took medicine, right? to now taking 60 pills a day. And really, when you look at them,

I had probably five medications that were really

for my immune system.

And all the others are

for the side effects. Right. So there Yeah an immune system. Not in supporting but suppressing your immune system. suppressing my immune system. That’s correct.

I’m assuming then you were on dialysis prior to. Not at that point. That was the one I had just told them that

I couldn’t really make it any further.

And

that was my next step so that I would have got the call on Sunday. They were gonna put me on dialysis that next week. Okay. Oh, okay. So no dialysis at that point, which is kind of a rarity. And the reason I was really pushing to not go on dialysis because they said the percentages

of organs rejecting were much better if you had not been on dialysis prior to start

So I really was fighting to not be put on dialysis if I didn’t have to, because I would have success use that muscle or lose it. Not necessarily the kidney, but the system that supports it. That’s correct. That is correct, I get it. So, so anyway, and they were telling me Ty the recovery is

really hard

the first year, because you got all these medications that you’re putting in your body, your body’s

trying to not reject the new organs that are

in your system.

your body’s got a lot of things going on

and it really was I mean, I felt horrible and they would try to ask me about when I talked to some other patients that may be coming in. I said, right now, you guys do not want me talking to anyone, and encouraging them to do a transplant because I felt horrible.

But they kept saying, just give it time, give it time. And I’ll tell you, they were absolutely correct when that one year mark hit, it was like it was within a week or two of that year that I really just my I don’t know if my body just started accepting some of these. But I felt amazing. I felt different, I felt great,

I was able to

live a normal

lifestyle, which was really, really nice,

With energy levels returning, that kind of thing. Yes, with energy level. But I think

Were you off insulin? Yes. And that’s what I want to talk about. Right. Because

receiving a pancreas

as a diabetic, a type one diabetic, your pancreas is what

it doesn’t work.

So now that’s why you have because it produces insulin.

when you eat or drink something, your body will produce insulin to cover that sugars.

and so with the new pancreas, I didn’t have to take shots.

I wasn’t a diabetic any longer. Wow. Absolutely amazing. So 20 years of shots and not anymore for that.

Not for that, not for insulin. I mean, I could just feel I mean, I saw my skin color change. I saw, my complexion. Yeah. Because I started having some different, you know,

I just didn’t realize how bad I felt. And in fact, there was

a medical reporter that did a story on it, and she said, what?

How do you describe prior the surgery to post surgery? And I said, you know, it’s a good question,

but I described it as I see life in full color, where I used to see it in black and white, and

it was absolutely amazing.

because someone made a decision to be an organ donor. And I encourage people to please, consider that because

there’s a lot of people that are in these hospitals.

just waiting for matches.

Right. Because that person made

that choice, though, I was able to get married, I was able to start a business. I was able to adopt,

our daughter. We have a new daughter that we adopted. And so that’s where I, you know, I talk about pushing through because there’s always. I feel like on the other side of adversity,

there’s some great things.

We just have to push through.

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You know, BJ Palmer, a chiropractor that kind of paved the way of the chiropractic philosophy in the 50s. Said something along the lines of, you never know how far reaching something you think, say, or do may affect the lives of millions tomorrow. And in this case, someone donated, pancreas, was an organ donor.

And that now giving you life. And now you’re able to adopt a child and who knows how that’s going to affect that child’s life. And you never know how far reaching something you do, may affect the lives of millions tomorrow. And, that is a beautiful thing to say there. And an encouragement to people to be organ donors.

So, yeah. Yeah. No it was. Thank you for making that point. No. You’re welcome. And that’s kind of,

what now has become my mission is just to try to encourage people to be organ donors. I still to this day get calls

from hospitals

that may have a loved one, that has been in an accident or whatever the case may be, that they are considering organ donation.

And so

I tell them on a horrible tragedy

what that gift can mean to others, you know, and what it’s done for me and

just encourage them through that and so

I truly dedicate my time now to just trying to help people

through things like this. So

it’s been a joy.

But, but, you know,

the story didn’t really end there though.

my pancreas lasted for 12 years. So I didn’t have diabetes for 12 years, but as most organs do, they’re going to reject at some point, right? So, after 12 years,

I, again became a diabetic. I went back to being a diabetic.

I got put on an insulin pump. But years prior, I was part of the research team of getting some of those things going. So now I’m back and it’s a much smaller insulin pump and all that. So 12 years and then and then let’s talk. My mother’s kidney lasted for 20 years. And this is where it really gets interesting.

So that was in

2000 is when I had my first surgery. 2020 is when

kidneys failed again. And, this time I had to go immediately on dialysis.

And,

to this day,

every time I see a dialysis set I just say a quick prayer for those people. Because if you know somebody going through dialysis, it’s

a challenging time and it’s, so I always say, just please, please think about those people because that’s a

hard life.

and really, when you think about it, it’s almost like a room full of there’s no hope, right? Because there’s just that people just trying to hold on. And so I always encourage people to, if you know somebody going through it to

help encourage them in any way you can, because that’s a hard, hard time. You know, I would go in from at 4:30 in the morning till 9 a.m., and then I would go to the office and work.

And so I tried to again was, you know, back to

the way I was raised, I didn’t really

care to tell people about what was going on because I felt like it was just they don’t want to hear my everybody was dealing with something. And this just happened to be what I’m dealing with.

So I went through dialysis and then

I, so I needed another kidney. So my sister ended up being a match. And so my sister started going through the testing, as you have to do, to figure out the

exact, match. And, then right at the end, they came back and said there was a filtration challenge with her,

it’s not really the best match we should do.

and so that kind of pulled all that

we had to stop and get off of that track. Well then my wife was talking and she says to me, there’s,

the process out there where they’re doing a complete they swap right where

you can donate a kidney and then they’ll

find somebody else. that matches you and you receive it, but you give a kidney back to the kidney, the bank.

Right. So it’s kind of a just a I mean, they it’s a big swap deal, which is I mean, it’s amazing what they’re doing with that stuff now. So she said, I’m going to go get tested

and just get prepared to see if we can do that so

she goes to

get tested and I get a call back and she’s, she’s just in this horrible crying and I’m like, what is wrong?

And she says, Ty. She said, God changed my blood type. And I’m like, what? What are you what are you talking about? Well, she thought her blood type was a certain one

and

when they got there, it matched me perfectly. Wow. So, I mean,

that itself was a miracle in itself. So. And needless to say, like, seven weeks later, I received my wife’s kidney.

Wow. Yeah. So now you tell me.

on a comical side of this. I say, what in the world on Mother’s Day? I don’t have enough financials to dump my mother and My wife is giving me life. I always laugh, you guys. I don’t have enough to give back. I can’t thank you guys enough for what you’ve done for me.

You know, my mother’s giving me life twice,

And my beautiful wife was able to donate her kidney, so,

it’s a miracle that it’s happened. But man, I am, I’m so thankful. I’m very thankful that. Wow, wow, wow. So as of, 20, 20. Five years ago, I received,

her kidney, and, she’s doing wonderful.

and I am to I feel better today than I have felt in my entire life. So,

and that’s kind of where my purpose. And now, you know, those

business that I was able to start, my wife and I just recently got, we got we sold it, and it’s freed up a lot of my time.

And so, my mission is just to go back and give back and try to help people, because

and I’ll tell you why. Again, growing up where I didn’t talk about it, I just didn’t ever think nobody wanted to hear about it. So my wife asked me when I was going through dialysis. We were at a family gathering at a family that I’d never met.

And she said, do you mind telling your story? And I said, what? For sure? Yeah. If they want to hear it, I’ll be glad to tell it. And so I told them, and, on the way home, like 4 or 5 of them texted me and said, hey, thanks for sharing. We we’re going to sign up for organ donors.

And I thought, wow. I said,

how selfish am I if I can just absolutely and simply tell my story and possibly save lives, you know, and this is kind of going back to where that, you know, you never know how far reaching something may go and someone

donated their pancreas to you. And now, you know, you’re not only adopted, but now you’re sharing your story and other people are

donating their organs that can save countless other lives.

And you never know how far reaching those go. That’s, this is huge.

what’s your three step, process that you developed and

when did you do that and how does it work or what can people learn from that? I, you know, and thanks for asking about that because

I think this is really important.

when I started looking at all the scenarios that I’ve been through, like what helped me through that, what

did I do? And I had several people ask me that through the years. And so I really kind of just dissected

when I was going through it. What did I do? Right.

And to simplify it, I mean, there’s step one is to grow or die. Do we want you know, and when I say die, I don’t mean it as a death

of a person or anything, a death of a hope, a dream,

a purpose, are we gonna get better, or are we just going to stay, let you know, just continue to feel bad or whatever the whatever situation we’re in.

Right. So that’s step one. So that’s what we do. And then step two, I no hope or despair.

are we going to just give up. And this you know, there’s no hope. And poor pitiful me, that’s how we think, right is we hope or despair. And then the third is humor or drama is how we talk.

So all three of those I talk about, it’s what we do. It’s what we think, it’s how we talk. And then that goes back to the powerful of positive thinking, right? If we think positive things, we talk positive things and we do positive things. It’s amazing with how the mind follows positive thinking. So I always say, I’ve put this, I have this up all the time for me, you know, just on little things.

Right? We wake up today and

we run into adversity of some sort like we talked about earlier, everyone is dealing with some form of adversity every day, whether it’s medical, whether it’s relationships or whatever that looks like. Right. Medical challenges. But

I look at this every day. Do I, am I going to get better or how am I going to deal with that?

Right? Or do I just let it be? How am I going to talk about what I positive thinking. Is it going to be hope or despair?

am I going to just really think negative or humor drama? Am I going to go around talking about how bad you know, how horrible today is? Or how bad my morning was?

Because when we talk it, our mind starts

to connect with those negative thoughts. Negative thinking. And it just becomes a negative. You know,

your positive thinking gets crushed. Yeah. Some something’s popping in my mind of when I have challenges in my life. And, you know, it’s one of those things where I could never say this and apply it to your challenges.

Only you can apply it to your challenges. I could never put this on someone else and convince them, oh no, this is a good thing. I’m glad you’re going through challenges. You know it’s not right. But I think of, Romans 828 that says all things work for the good, for those who believe, for those who are called according to his purpose and the challenges.

You can kind of look at that and say, okay,

if that’s true, then what can I learn from this and how can I make this work for good? Did that kind of cross your mind in this? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, you know, again,

the faith based of this is it’s been a huge part of it, but absolutely.

Yes. I mean,

I could go on and on about different scriptures, that went through my mind of, of, you know, I there’s a lot that I can relate to these that. Well, yes. If any pop up, feel free to drop them on this podcast. This is a, you know.

Yeah, it’s a good platform for it. Yeah. No. And I, I do appreciate that. I love the opportunity to be able to talk that.

you know the again the three steps is I try to keep it really simple.

I don’t want to overthink this, but

when people are going through it, like you said, it doesn’t matter if it’s as intense as maybe what I think because there’s people going through way more

and sometimes it may just be the simple adversity that we had this morning of, you know, the car wouldn’t start.

We had this or this, whatever the case may be, right, it’s okay. We’re going to get through it. And I just want to encourage people on the other side of this is there’s some great things, right? I mean, God is good.

and I can tell you only, you know, the it’s not our plan. You know,

he’s got our plan.

So we just need to keep a positive mind on and help people. Let’s lock arms, because today’s world is hard. You know, we live in a tough world. And I encourage people to

encourage others

But we can’t encourage others until we’re able to

think positive. so

that’s kind of my goal.

But that really is just to continue to encourage people and, and really, let’s put our arms around each other and help us through this, this situation. Yeah, that’s a good word. Is it a do you have a program or a book with this three step process? How does that work? How the people will learn it. I do

right now

I set up and visit with people through and we really dive into this three step process, on my website, has my contact information, and I’ll sit down and we’ll go through a three step process with you.

But,

I’m in the process

of putting some things together as far from a book. I don’t have a book out right now, Dr. Haley but, it’s something that’s on my

radar. I’m not quite there. I’m looking forward to it. And really, I’m just starting to really visit and talk about this.

So this is kind of been, a newer chapter for me. I’ve been going around, let me say, I’ve been going around for, from a, like a, organ donation centers and things like telling my story. Just what happened in that case. But as far as going around encouraging people through adversity, whatever it is, this is a new step for me.

And I’m super excited about it. Though. What’s your website? It’s tygipson.com and that’s, t y g i p is in Paul s o n.com. And I encourage, I would love to, to hear from folks and see, if there’s anything I can do to help and I guess you have, contact, form there or maybe a phone number or something that they can absolutely chat to you.

I do,

all my contact information is on there. I even have

a podcast that I’ve started just talking with people dealing with adversity.

Through Spotify. You can pick that up and, but What’s the of that podcast. So if people want to look it up now.

Yeah. Ty Gipson’s no options mindset I like it. It’s a nice, strong, bold title. It tells you right what it is. Yeah.

I might have to subscribe to that.

I love listening to podcasts. And when I’m driving and, you know, I used to listen to the radio sometimes I still put on worship music or something like that.

But that’s exactly what I do. I bounce, I bounce between, some good,

Christian music stations to the podcast. It just it depends on what mode I’m in and

how long the drive is. That’s great. Yeah. And for me, it’s funny because, I don’t listen to actually Christian, radio, but I, as a drummer in the church,

I’m listening to the next five songs that we’re going to play on Sunday now, I bet. Yeah.

that’s probably, something you have to do,

that’s awesome. Yeah. So you’re,

drummer and that’s,

great talent.

It’s a lot of fun. You know,

I’m one of those guys where, you know, I look forward to the day when,

I have a heavenly voice and I can actually sing.

Right now, I’m not, you know, I’m not that talented of a singer. So I like to, you know,

swing wood sticks at things that make music and try to

make music with sticks instead of my voice. But yeah, that’s all. Yeah, that’s. Well, that’s a great talent. Not everybody can

do that either.

So that’s

really nice. It’s a lot of fun too. I mean, you know, I think it starts when we’re like, probably a year old and our parents give us this wood block with a little hammer and we have to put the right shape to the right. And, you know, we’re just banging away at it and. Right, right.

Now, what are you doing for a living now?

I still work,

the company that we started that I created and started as, we sold, but we’ve stayed on with them

for a short period of time.

And, so that’s, I always say I’m not having to look at spreadsheets every day and all that now. So I kind of carved out some things I really enjoyed in the business. And so I have, stayed on to kind of help consult

through those, times.

so that’s where a lot of this has freed up some time to,

be able to do this and,

hopefully this thing grows and I’m able to, to go encourage more people.

That’s great. Is there anything that you wish I would have asked in this time?

I think it was very, very thorough and I enjoyed that. But I think what I would like to just say is, and I brought it up briefly, but, you know,

it’s hard out there for people

and I think we don’t always know what people are dealing with.

And I think if we

can all just think about,

being a positive influence to the people around us because we never know what people are dealing with. And

I would encourage people I mean,

even things, the little things, like when I was just feeling sick and I was really sick, and this the little encouragement that people gave me, I truly believe, is what helped me through.

So I would encourage people to

let’s make this world a little bit more positive, you know,

have some positive influence

and I always talk about just the little things,

whether it’s the waiter or the waitress at the restaurant, local restaurant that you’re at today, or are just you passing the grocery store, be intentionally make some positive comments.

If there’s something that’s positive about it, please find the positive instead of the negative. I think a lot of times we lead with the negative. But if I can encourage people to be positive, I think it makes a difference in our world. So, other than that,

I think it’s been a great conversation and

I hope I’ve encouraged people

through my story

and if anybody out there in your audience that would love to hear more or, or have questions, I’m wide open.

I’ll be glad to do respond That’s great. Perfect. Thank you. Ty thank you so much for taking an hour out of your day to be here today. Yeah. No, I’m.

Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.

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